W211 E55 vs W212 E63.... tonight
04-23-2010, 01:46 PM
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Jesus I in 24hrs I missed all of this 
Nice runs to the both of you.
AMG finally figured out the way to out perform the E55 is to rebuild the same engine but add two turbo's because in some cases they just missed the boat on the 63's.
Nice runs to the both of you. AMG finally figured out the way to out perform the E55 is to rebuild the same engine but add two turbo's because in some cases they just missed the boat on the 63's.
04-23-2010, 01:50 PM
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Mthis I wish you were on the west coast cuz your 63 is a beast and I would love to see how we would run on the same track the same day or if I was on the east coast.
04-23-2010, 01:52 PM
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Strange but it does not compute with my experience. I had 08 e63 with charcoals delete only, and Jon's C63 was pulling slightly top end. My new 2010 E63 was about even. So, the new E63 was quicker than my 08 E63.
Don't know. Just seems like too many variations and conditions. Cars are so close that any change in either temp, weight or whatever can produce a win or a loss for either.
Keep in mind that 1.5 to 2 cars at 150mph is most likely less than 0.1 sec in time difference and maybe 2-3mph in speed.
Don't know. Just seems like too many variations and conditions. Cars are so close that any change in either temp, weight or whatever can produce a win or a loss for either.
Keep in mind that 1.5 to 2 cars at 150mph is most likely less than 0.1 sec in time difference and maybe 2-3mph in speed.
Oldgixer with his e63 told me last night he had the same thing happen, he was running 2-3mph more then other stock e63s. Some of these stock cars are running a lil quicker then others and I think that's y we all gettn diff results.
A good run would be oldgixer e63 vs ur e63 albert. This is all fun for us so hopefully we will all get together soon.
04-23-2010, 02:11 PM
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E63 P30, CL500 Sport
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Not to mention I only lose 1.5 to ur tune/header 63. So if u claim I have 10-15hp more plus if I use 100 octane ill prob be kissing your bumper
. Uh oh give it to me loll
How about this guys. I go out running every1 and no matter what I do I her ***** and excuses all the time. So this is what I say. We have me, jon - ( c63 ), oldgixer - ( w211 e63 ), albert - ( 212 63 ) all get together on a sat/sun am we all get every single car on the same dyno and go out for some friendly runs after that.
So there it is. I'm IN.....
Not to mention I only lose 1.5 to ur tune/header 63. So if u claim I have 10-15hp more plus if I use 100 octane ill prob be kissing your bumper
. Uh oh give it to me lollHow about this guys. I go out running every1 and no matter what I do I her ***** and excuses all the time. So this is what I say. We have me, jon - ( c63 ), oldgixer - ( w211 e63 ), albert - ( 212 63 ) all get together on a sat/sun am we all get every single car on the same dyno and go out for some friendly runs after that.
So there it is. I'm IN.....
04-23-2010, 02:14 PM
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E63 P30, CL500 Sport
04-23-2010, 03:15 PM
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Its a flag of the albanian eagle
. You can see it more clear in the pix I posted in page 1 haha.
04-23-2010, 03:22 PM
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I'll come and spectate! Nice runs guys.
A couple of things about the 7 speed...The M5's 7 speed is geared for performance. You reach top speed in 7th gear. The Mercedes 7 speed auto seems like a great idea but the last 2 gears are actually for economy.
The MCT *should* have less drivetrain loss! BMW, Porsche, Nissan, their dual clutch paddle shift transmissions result in more power to the ground. MB is the opposite? Weird...
A couple of things about the 7 speed...The M5's 7 speed is geared for performance. You reach top speed in 7th gear. The Mercedes 7 speed auto seems like a great idea but the last 2 gears are actually for economy.
The MCT *should* have less drivetrain loss! BMW, Porsche, Nissan, their dual clutch paddle shift transmissions result in more power to the ground. MB is the opposite? Weird...
04-23-2010, 03:47 PM
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nice runs as always.
what was the ambient temp..?
The e55 is cooler weather is a beast since the ECU does not jump in to pull timing. (same can be said for any boosted car vs N/A motor)
In the warmer months.. I would say the 63 will be right there with you.
But its still a good showing for the E55 based on its age.
MCT is not really helping MB at this point. They need a true dual clutch transmission, like GTR, PDK, Audi, MDCT.
what was the ambient temp..?
The e55 is cooler weather is a beast since the ECU does not jump in to pull timing. (same can be said for any boosted car vs N/A motor)
In the warmer months.. I would say the 63 will be right there with you.
But its still a good showing for the E55 based on its age.
MCT is not really helping MB at this point. They need a true dual clutch transmission, like GTR, PDK, Audi, MDCT.
04-23-2010, 05:14 PM
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To Mthis;
Not to mention I only lose 1.5 to ur tune/header 63. So if u claim I have 10-15hp more plus if I use 100 octane ill prob be kissing your bumper. Uh oh give it to me loll
How about this guys. I go out running every1 and no matter what I do I her ***** and excuses all the time. So this is what I say. We have me, jon - ( c63 ), oldgixer - ( w211 e63 ), albert - ( 212 63 ) all get together on a sat/sun am we all get every single car on the same dyno and go out for some friendly runs after that.
So there it is. I'm IN.....
Not to mention I only lose 1.5 to ur tune/header 63. So if u claim I have 10-15hp more plus if I use 100 octane ill prob be kissing your bumper
. Uh oh give it to me lollHow about this guys. I go out running every1 and no matter what I do I her ***** and excuses all the time. So this is what I say. We have me, jon - ( c63 ), oldgixer - ( w211 e63 ), albert - ( 212 63 ) all get together on a sat/sun am we all get every single car on the same dyno and go out for some friendly runs after that.
So there it is. I'm IN.....
Lmao dude I had bald tires when I raced u Thats the only reason u styed close to me.
You wanna try again this time don't reset u ecu bc i don't want u to say u car was not shifting rite.
04-23-2010, 05:37 PM
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
Definetly makes sense. Your def putting down more power then a c63 because you guys are even.
What I'm interested about is this whole gearing issue. I've heard numerous times that a 7 speed does better up top. From my experience I have run multiple times with "up top" cars (c63/e63/21263/M5) and I do not believe that any of these cars do better up top then a 5 speed 55.
To me its a fact the 7 speeds are not any better then the 5 speed. I have proved it time and time again.
What I'm interested about is this whole gearing issue. I've heard numerous times that a 7 speed does better up top. From my experience I have run multiple times with "up top" cars (c63/e63/21263/M5) and I do not believe that any of these cars do better up top then a 5 speed 55.
To me its a fact the 7 speeds are not any better then the 5 speed. I have proved it time and time again.
04-23-2010, 05:42 PM
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
Dude u need to bring you car to Bruce to Dyno u car. Last tme u dynoed and got 411 it was a spike and you car downshifted from4th gear to 3rd. That's not a accurate Dyno u got.
Plus you should Dyno you car now after 2nd cat delete and mufflers I'm sure u gained 10-15 not 3-5. Plus you k&n's. Comon you not stock no more Time to start modding you cAr.
Is this beter em I gettn in u head now. Lmao
Plus you should Dyno you car now after 2nd cat delete and mufflers I'm sure u gained 10-15 not 3-5. Plus you k&n's. Comon you not stock no more Time to start modding you cAr.
Is this beter em I gettn in u head now. Lmao
04-23-2010, 05:46 PM
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. This time you coming to me by that spot i ran the 212. We gonnna get you to come out of the ISLAND. 
. I just jumped on 40k.
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04-23-2010, 05:57 PM
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ahahahhaah ANYTIME MY MAN. Dont worry no ECu reset. My muffler 2nd cat delete should be enuff to take you . This time you coming to me by that spot i ran the 212. We gonnna get you to come out of the ISLAND.
Yeah definetly going to be interesting for sure. I guess let me know when is good for you so I let him know as well. Set something up. I just jumped on 40k.
. This time you coming to me by that spot i ran the 212. We gonnna get you to come out of the ISLAND. Yeah definetly going to be interesting for sure. I guess let me know when is good for you so I let him know as well. Set something up
. I just jumped on 40k.wow my man got exhaust system worth 20WHP!
"MHP C63 will come around from behind on both of yous during the runs." ROFL someone needs mods.
04-23-2010, 06:25 PM
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i put 1000 miles within 3 weeks!!!!
holla at meee when u see me ridin in the city with my highbeams onnnn...ROFLThis is your first win in a long time.. ill give it to you, every C63, 335i M5 u raced you gettin beatin by, man i think its time for u to do some modding, and stopp with the exterior mods, and PRETENDING like your modded.
<<< who am i?????
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
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04 w211 E55
He ran them, and you saw what happened.
i put 1000 miles within 3 weeks!!!!holla at meee when u see me ridin in the city with my highbeams onnnn...ROFL
This is your first win in a long time i give it to you, every C63, 335i M5 u raced you gettin beatin by, man i think its time for u to do some modding, and stopp with the exterior mods, and PRETENDING like your modded.
<<< who am i?????
i put 1000 miles within 3 weeks!!!!
holla at meee when u see me ridin in the city with my highbeams onnnn...ROFLThis is your first win in a long time i give it to you, every C63, 335i M5 u raced you gettin beatin by, man i think its time for u to do some modding, and stopp with the exterior mods, and PRETENDING like your modded.
<<< who am i?????My first win in a long time
you want to be my 2nd with your 335 ? You have alot of butt time in the 55 so no need to start this never ending back and forth you like to start all the time. I'm 1 phone call away .
