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Old 04-06-2003, 03:55 AM
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whats up, I just got my 210 e55 and like I said I'm workin on gettin it into the 11's. So far I've got a 13.0 Bone stock plus:
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The porsche is a bone stock 6-speed down to its p-zeros and stock air fliter.

I consistantly beat it by 2 cars.
For those of you who have seen my videos before , you know they are high quality and well edited!

http://161.58.248.45/images/video/e55v996.mpg

It's 8mb so it might take a while, you may right click and save as...
PS if you dont condone streetracing, DONT click it!

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how come 911 turbo should be pretty fasT!? isn't it?
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yes a 911 turbo IS fast, but that wasnt one.
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i don;'t get it....the guy didn't know how to shift it properly or what....what you mean?
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BoBcanada, the car is not a turbo Porsche, so it is not nearly as quick as the turbo model.
Autostream, can you post some time slips? What size is the custom exhaust? What 60 ft. times have you achieved with the S-03's?
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Nice video btw w211 is faster than 911 turbo and almost half priced
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...and then the road turned, and the Porsche left you in the dust.

Yes, we AMG guys like to think our cars are faster and less costly, but Porsche doesn't build cars for horsepower. I beat a 911 at the drag strip in my C32, but it doesn't really matter. He'll leave me behind at the track.

Same goes for the W210 E55 vs. 911, and the W211 E55 vs 911 Turbo.
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Yes, I agree with Justin, Porsche is a track car not a drag car. the 6 speed manual 911 can do 5s for o-60mph on the hand of a professional driver. The E55 however, can easily get 5s for the 0-60mph
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HEEELLLOOOO PEOPLE

the e55 isnt built for track OR drag. For a benz to beat a porsche in any performance category is impressive. It's a 4-door for christ, do you know how embarrassing that is for a porsche driver, lmao!

ps. Havent been to the track yet. but can tell you the s03's are better than pilots, p zeros and are cheaper. not as good as kd's though.

pss. my e55 is slightly modified for more hp than stock, but stock, I believe i would NOT have lost that race anyway.

BTW, I also own a porsche turbo (check my profile) so i am not biased at all.
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That much we know, but it's pretty obvious what MB is trying to do stuffing new AMG models with 500hp+
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Originally posted by Finnish C32
Nice video btw w211 is faster than 911 turbo and almost half priced

Stock 911TT's turn in 0-60 times of 3.7-4.1 sec's.

Stock w211E55's have been reported at 4.3-5.0 sec's.

Why do you say that the E55 is faster?
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Originally posted by JustinTRW
That much we know, but it's pretty obvious what MB is trying to do stuffing new AMG models with 500hp+
its just for bragging rights. they have to top the m5 and the rs6

its justr hp in that car. For the track, that would be the last car you would choose. The numbers are impressive, but all the testers agreed that this(211) is NO sports car.
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Originally posted by amg55
Stock 911TT's turn in 0-60 times of 3.7-4.1 sec's.

Stock w211E55's have been reported at 4.3-5.0 sec's.

Why do you say that the E55 is faster?
he means 1/4 mile and thereafter.
the only reason the porscheTT sees those 0-60 numbers are because of the 4wd. After the launch, the porsche has to worry about it serious hp disadvantage

unless you are racing a professional driver, my money would be on the mercedes.
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JEEEEZZZE, Guys I have to say that the E55 AMG W210/2111 are both VERY fast cars, obvisouly the Kompressor is faster, BUT for me, my dad owns a W210 normal car. We treat this car with so much respect and admiration, and I can only dream to think what It would be to sample this powerpack. It is truly amazing, plus for us guys over here in the Uk where petrol is 3/4 of a GBP per litre, and insurance, reasons, all of us drive diesels, and or 1-3 litre max cars.

If we see, an 5.0 or above car, its like seeing a Ferrari. And if its a Kompressor AMG, then we really do crap our pants in joy.

Another thing, guys have you seeeennn the tyre wideth on a porsch 911 turbo,???? jeeze, its like 6 foot wide!!!! If you give those tyres to a W210, I don't know what will happen. With these new engines and all their torque, it is near impossible to floor it and get good launch with ESP on, since power is reduced, and ESP off, you'll leave half your tyres at the traffic lights, and your tail will have slid to New mexico.


All in all, I am very proud of AMG cars, God willing we all get to try one one day, that will be THE day!!!
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Originally posted by Autostream
he means 1/4 mile and thereafter.
Quarter Mile:
2003 PORSCHE 911 TURBO 11.9 sec.
2003 Dodge Viper 12.0 sec.
2002 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 12.2 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 12.7 sec.
2002 Ferrari 360 Modena 12.8 sec.
2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 12.9 sec.
2003 MERCEDES BENZ SL55 AMG 13.0 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette 13.1 sec.
1995 Toyota Supra 13.1 sec.
2002 BMW M3 13.3 sec.


0-100mph
2002 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 8.8 sec.
2003 PORSCHE 911 TURBO 8.9 sec.
2003 Dodge Viper 9.3 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 9.9 sec.
2002 Ferrari 360 Modena 10.2 sec.
2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 10.4 sec.
2003 MERCEDES BENZ SL55 AMG 10.9 sec.
1995 Toyota Supra 11.1 sec.
2002 BMW M3 11.6 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette 11.7 sec.


0-60 mph
2003 PORSCE 911 TURBO 3.9 sec.
2003 Dodge Viper 4.0 sec.
2002 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 4.0 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 4.3 sec.
2002 Ferrari 360 Modena 4.3 sec.
2002 Chevrolet Corvette 4.5 sec.
2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra 4.5 sec.
2003 MERCEDES BENZ SL55 AMG 4.5 sec.
1995 Toyota Supra 4.6 sec.
2002 BMW M3 4.8 sec.


(SL55 is very similar to 211E55 time, perhaps 0.1-0.2 slower under optimal conditions).


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that's so cool, great kill! Congrats!
how did you do your exhaust?
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that's so cool, great kill! Congrats!
how did you do your exhaust?
everything from the manifold to the tips were removed. Replaced with 2.5" pipes with smooth bends eliminating all cats and mid muffler (xpipe) and replaced rear muffler with a dual chamber flowmaster for an BMWX5. welded back on amg tips. and a crossover pipe midway.
now it sounds like it should. Almost exaclty like a stock z06 vette. very quiet at idle (though louder than stock which was almost silent) and really loud on full throttle. louder than that porsche. I am very happy with the sound and its much more freerer flowing.
and yes i kept all 02 sensors and moved the 2nd set further down so it wont set a code (i hope, its been 5 days and no code yet!)
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Ive seen 0-125mph times something like 14.1-14.7 for E55AMG and 996 Turbo never under 15seconds. Couple magazines got 12.0-12.2 quarter-mile times for E55. that 11.9 was best ever(?) for 996 Turbo. GT2 is another piece...
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Originally posted by Autostream
everything from the manifold to the tips were removed. Replaced with 2.5" pipes with smooth bends eliminating all cats and mid muffler (xpipe) and replaced rear muffler with a dual chamber flowmaster for an BMWX5. welded back on amg tips. and a crossover pipe midway.
now it sounds like it should. Almost exaclty like a stock z06 vette. very quiet at idle (though louder than stock which was almost silent) and really loud on full throttle. louder than that porsche. I am very happy with the sound and its much more freerer flowing.
and yes i kept all 02 sensors and moved the 2nd set further down so it wont set a code (i hope, its been 5 days and no code yet!)
Wow, that sounds very good, how about at 45-50 mph? Is it loud of quiet.
I need to work on mine, but I don't want it loud for regular driving, I don't mind it loud at WOT.
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Wow, that sounds very good, how about at 45-50 mph? Is it loud of quiet.
I need to work on mine, but I don't want it loud for regular driving, I don't mind it loud at WOT.
go test drive a z06 , its exactly the same noises. you def hear it cruising, but its not annoying. i use the command speaker phone all the time and no one hears the car. i'll be putting up a lot more videos on my site in the next week or two
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ok that porche got dusted
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Originally posted by Finnish C32
Ive seen 0-125mph times something like 14.1-14.7 for E55AMG and 996 Turbo never under 15seconds. Couple magazines got 12.0-12.2 quarter-mile times for E55. that 11.9 was best ever(?) for 996 Turbo. GT2 is another piece...
Well, most german car magazines tested the 996 Turbo below 15 seconds (around 14.6 seconds) and the E 55 has been tested between 14.6 and 14.9 seconds. So there virtually isn't any difference between the 996 Turbo and E 55 up to 125 mph.
But that's not the whole story. I owned a Porsche 996 Turbo RS-Tuning (543 HP) before I ordered the E 55 (family needs more space, we already own a ML 55 and a SLK 32) and I'm a real Porsche freak. Just in case somebody thinks I want to bash Porsche, this is not the case. Here's a little story:
we did a 996 Turbo vs. SL 55 AMG comparison a while ago and the 996 Turbo pulled off at all speed ranges. The SL 55 was limited to 250 kph.
Then, a different story with a different 996 Turbo (dealer car) and a E 55 AMG (dealer car too): we drove both cars at the same time to make a performance comparison. From standstill, the 996 Turbo pulled off slightly faster (about half a car length), probably because of the 4WD and the annoying ESP sensitivity on the E55.
Up to 125 mph, both cars were practically driving head to head, no performance difference at all. At speeds over 140 mph, things changed...the E 55 pulled off and left the 996 Turbo behind. We couldn't go at more than around 155 mph at that time but it was pretty clear: at speeds over 125 mph, the 996 Turbo lost ground.
Pretty impressive for such a heavy limousine.

Unfortunately most 996 Turbo out there are tuned, sometimes only ECU mods, sometimes big money mods. So if a 996 Turbo clearly outruns you in your E 55, it surely it wasn't stock.
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Then, a different story with a different 996 Turbo (dealer car) and a E 55 AMG (dealer car too): we drove both cars at the same time to make a performance comparison. From standstill, the 996 Turbo pulled off slightly faster (about half a car length), probably because of the 4WD and the annoying ESP sensitivity on the E55.
Nice story, I can't wait to do the same test you did with my 02 TT 996...and my tomorrow delivery of my E55
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i went to your site and registered but i coudlnt find the codec to watch that last video. help someone


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