TTMotorsports

TTM is now the ONLY AUTHORIZED Flashloader/Programmer/Data Logger dealer in the Mercedes market in the USA!!!

Please PM me for introductory pricing on the most revolutionary tool to hit the tuning market!

Now have the capability of storing multiple files and data logging up to 6 hours of data on a hand held device so now YOU can do your own comparisons and get REAL WORLD numbers, not INFLATED TUNER QUOTEDnumbers.


Isn't this what you've all been waiting for?

You also have the capability to flash a valet mode that will limit your Mercedes to a predetermined speed or rpm limit!

Sathinas

Why not just put the price in the post?

skratch77

Sounds good bruce,whats the price for this and can we get an unlocked version?

TTMotorsports

Angelo-
Call me and I will explain the whole sequence and pricing to you!

lolachampcar

Just for clarification-
TTM is the only MBWorld.ORG registered vendor selling the programmer/logger. There are other tuners providing this tool but they are not registered vendors on this forum (and thus I will not list them).

lolachampcar

If by unlocked you mean multiple ViNs then no, there is no unlocked version of the programmer.

skratch77

By unlocked I ment like giving me full access to the ecu so I can tune and my own car.

Like say you give a base file and let us to the rest.

What hardware is this?

im not in the interest of tuning cars and making money,if there is a way to lock one vin but give us 100% control id be interested.

MB_Forever

This device allows you to load multiple tunes onto your vehicle; it does not allow you to actually tune the ECU. It is an updated version of the device RennTech used to sell under the name RennTech Auto Tuner or RAT.

DAGREEKNYC

Bruce is it installed in my car yet ?????

lolachampcar

Ok, I see....

It might be helpful at this point to separate programming from tuning. The tool will allow you to generate files encrypted to a particular programmer from raw unencrypted binary files and program those files on an ME2.7.1 or ME2.8.1 in your car without ever having to pull the ECU and send it anywhere. This is especially useful on things like SLRs where is a PITA to get the ECU out and, if it is lost or damaged along the way, bloody expensive to replace.

The programmer just lets you put stuff on the car. The second half is the tuning which results in the file that gets put on the car. It is difficult to ask a tuner for his/her base file so that you can make modifications from that point forward as you are basically asking them to give you the keys to the kingdom. I do not think there is a locked down file editor for MB out there that would hide the maps and their locations so that starting file is basically a template for tuning all cars of that type. As you might guess, tuners defend this type of information.

You may be able to achieve the very same goal by working closely with an existing tuner. They could provide you with screen shots or other listings of the timing, mixture and other pertinent tables and you could prescribe changes as you see fit. The editing process is fast and the resultant encrypted file could be sent via email or Skype. I have tuners that do a similar thing with remote shops. For example, you have a tuner in Europe with a shop in the UAE. The car is on the dyno, the pull is logged and the results Skyped back to the tuner. The tuner then edits the file to correct any issues and Skypes back the new file for uploading to the car. The iterative custom tuning process occurs quickly without the need to schedule or fly the tuner to the shop or ship the car to the tuner. I have also heard of tuners getting Skyped log data (ME97) from the track, making edits and turning the files back around between runs.

Ghostrider

Is this available for any MB?

skratch77

Yeah I have a friend tuning an sl65 right now lol,Im waiting to see the dyno.

He is using byte shooter master and it cost like 5k for the setup.

Ghostrider

How can I get hooked up with this?

Ghostrider

MB_Forever

You should be able to get one of these by contacting any of the tuning companies. Did you try contacting Bruce at TTMotorsports yet?

TopGun32

I like the idea.. but the price is not friendly for my situation.

I just can't believe you can tune a n54 engine for $300 buck with a piggy back and able to load files for your Octane rating.

it has to be a more simple way for us AMG owners.. specially when the turbos come out.

I can't wait to load file through Wi-fi via iphone that connects to a OBD2 plug with antenna.. We buy the hardware and a tuner sends us the file for $200 bucks. Anybody out there?

lolachampcar

Just a couple of quick observations-
If the N54 piggyback stuff was $200 retail, the N54 piggyback would never have been created. There simply would not have been enough money in it.

The only way a "tuner" can sell ME97 files for $200 and be around for very long is if he/she simply copies the work of another tuner. This eventually happens and cheaper alternatives appear. If you have no investment, your costs of goods are much less and you have zero overhead thus you can afford to "give away" what you have aquired.

Lastly, when you do pick your tuner, I would suggest you pick one with the knowledge to at least adjust the product you are buying and pockets sufficiently deep enough to make things right if something does go wrong (like loose an ECU then have to have MB install a new one).

These are just my opinions having observed the market for a while and generated some products for it as well (ME97, ME2.8.1, ME2.7.1 and N54 programmers).

Ghostrider

Someone got a hold of me...

blackbenzz

How do you use the datalogger function? Also, can the end user see these log files or does it require special software to view? Thanks

Are you part of OEtuning? How would you know beforehand if a tuner would make things right?

lolachampcar

The data logger function is supported on the ME97 (AMG 63s), MSD8x (BMW x35s) and MSS6x ECUs (M3/5/6) only. The data rate on the ME2.7s and 2.8s is soooooo slow that logging data is almost useless. Think slow dial up speeds and you will be on the right track. I have been asked by several tuners to migrate my current 2.7/2.8 data logger to the new Mass Storage Class design and I will do it but sample rates that vary from 1 to 5 samples a second depending upon bus/ECU load makes it somewhat painful to use. The logger also records DTCs and can clear them as well as soon as I get off my lazy butt and add code clearing.

With respect to using the data logger functionality, the process is reasonably straight forward. You follow these basic steps-
Copy the Vehicle Data, Original and Tuned files off the Device. The Device looks like a memory stick when you plug it into a computer (Mass Storage Class or MSC device) so copying is simple drag and drop stuff.
Erase those same files off the Device.
Copy logset.bin over to the Device. This file is ECU specific and contains the list of items to be logged.
Plug the Device into the car, it will spend a few minutes erasing its internal storage then start to log data. It records data only when RPM is present to save space. Some versions also allow you to use the switch to start and stop logging.

With respect to viewing the data, there is a free viewer download which you install then simply import the logdata.bin or logdata.dat file from the Device. If you like, I can post a link to the viewer here and, if you PM me with your email address, I can send you as sample data file. There are no provisions for uploading a .bin file to the site or I would just post it here.

Ghostrider

I shot you an email... I would like to hear more about the tuning aspect of this product.