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Old 07-27-2010, 06:50 AM
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quick question about installing CAMS

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does the S/C need to be removed to install the CAMS ??


im thinking on going for Kleemann.


what do u think ?
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does the S/C need to be removed to install the CAMS ??
No

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im thinking on going for Kleemann.

what do u think
I got em and very happy... makes the top end really pull and no losses elsewhere ... there is a dyno i posted on it a while back and it shows gains from mid all the way up.

Its actually an easier install than a TB, but might take longer is you know what I mean.

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Have the K Cams as well and very satisfied with them. Not too overly aggressive. Strong mid+ pull.
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agreed with the group. You will need the mb cam tool tho.
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What about going with the Schrick cams? A little better/aggressive cam profile than the Kleemann's IMO.

Here are the Schrick cams with the titanium retainers that I recommend doing when installing either set of cams!

http://cid-8b4f5128fba1290b.photos.l...s/P7160775.JPG

http://cid-8b4f5128fba1290b.photos.l...s/P7160759.JPG

The exhaust retainers are a little tricky but I have a little trick to make the retainer replacement much easier.

The titanium retainers are much stronger and much lighter! Since you are already in there it should be a no brainer.
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agreed with the group. You will need the mb cam tool tho.
Jake-
Have you ever even installed a cam set? Unless it was on Full Throttle's CLS and you know how that turned out........ engine!!
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Only thing my tech said was to make sure she goes in EXACTLY like she comes out. One tooth off and she'll run like garbage.

Wonder Benz gives very little info on specs of course so be careful.
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Ali-

What about going with the Schrick cams? A little better/aggressive cam profile than the Kleemann's IMO.

Here are the Schrick cams with the titanium retainers that I recommend doing when installing either set of cams!

http://cid-8b4f5128fba1290b.photos.l...s/P7160775.JPG

http://cid-8b4f5128fba1290b.photos.l...s/P7160759.JPG

The exhaust retainers are a little tricky but I have a little trick to make the retainer replacement much easier.

The titanium retainers are much stronger and much lighter! Since you are already in there it should be a no brainer.
How much do the Shrick Cams cost?
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Have you ever even installed a cam set? Unless it was on Full Throttle's CLS and you know how that turned out........ engine!!
I was always wondering what ever happened to full throttle's CLS... I guess I just got my answer...

Bruce, have you had problems with the kleemann cams or you just prefer the schrick cams instead? Thanks for the input
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anyone know what type of whp/wtq the kleemans make under the curve?
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if i was in US then sure i would replace other things you mentioned Bruce, but i don't know if the guys here can do it 100% for the springs and exhuast valve, i really don't want to mess my engine thats why i was wondering if i will need to remove the S/C, also some guys here installed Shreck, but they are saying that there are no gains !!!!!!!!!
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I was always wondering what ever happened to full throttle's CLS... I guess I just got my answer...
I was told that FT's car lasted 2 weeks before engine.

Might even have pictures since I know where the car is right now!


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Bruce, have you had problems with the kleemann cams or you just prefer the schrick cams instead? Thanks for the input
Kleemann has solid products and I do sell a ton of their stuff and am very happy with all of their products! No problems with the Kleemann sticks! From information that I have found regarding their cams, their cams are profiled off of the SLR cam profiles and the cams that we have Schrick manufacture are more aggressive than those. Our cams are only manufactured by them. not sold by them.
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
if i was in US then sure i would replace other things you mentioned Bruce, but i don't know if the guys here can do it 100% for the springs and exhuast valve, i really don't want to mess my engine thats why i was wondering if i will need to remove the S/C, also some guys here installed Shreck, but they are saying that there are no gains !!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear that Ali about the installer situation. Fly me in and I will take care of the cams and retainers for you!

Talk is cheap. They make nice gains through the whole curve. Schrick doesn't sell our cams to anyone directly. They do sell their own cams and they are more in line with the SLR cam profile. Once the cams and retainers are installed the car has to be retuned to optimize the cams and experience the power increase.
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Dayam...yall makin me think about cams now...

So Bruce, you have Schrick make cams specific to your specs? These are also different then the ones Schrick normally sells for us? Just want to clarify.
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Fly me in and I will take care of the cams and retainers for you!
nice idea
Ali_E55 grab a couple of local member needing tunes and other stuff done to their cars and pitch in for a plane ticket
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Y'all should get PTE involved in this conversation...I have the PTE/VRP cams in the Beast and he is intimately aware of the install and performance gains of aftermarket cams.

My Beast runs much stronger with the cams in the mid to high RPM range...Jakpro can also attest to this...
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