W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Guys you pick for me 168 or 175

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 01:32 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
Guys you pick for me 168 or 175

Im in a tight spot,I have 2 pullies sitting here and don't know what to run.

I have a renntech 168 that is a true oem pulley and wont wobble and has the stock damper on it.

and I have a vrp gen 4 with bolts that are prone to come off and it MIGHT wobble once installed and eat my keyway on my crank.

I know the 168 wont be enough power once its on and the vrp is killing me thinking about what could go wrong down the road.

To make things worse I need to pick one asap to get the right tune on it as Im sending the ecu out this weekend.
Old 09-28-2010, 01:45 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Hammer Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 4,275
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
2015 E63S, 2018 E63S
Originally Posted by skratch77
Im in a tight spot,I have 2 pullies sitting here and don't know what to run.

I have a renntech 168 that is a true oem pulley and wont wobble and has the stock damper on it.

and I have a vrp gen 4 with bolts that are prone to come off and it MIGHT wobble once installed and eat my keyway on my crank.

I know the 168 wont be enough power once its on and the vrp is killing me thinking about what could go wrong down the road.

To make things worse I need to pick one asap to get the right tune on it as Im sending the ecu out this weekend.


Go for the 168, Vinny has already proven that you can get into the 10's with this pulley and I believe that Evosport,Kleemann and Brabus all have 168's. I can't but think that there has to be a reason why all 4 Super Tuners have
the same size pulley.

Or you can do this, sell both of them and call ASP and have them make you a 175mm pulley and keep your temps down.
Old 09-28-2010, 02:19 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
Originally Posted by Hammer Down
Go for the 168, Vinny has already proven that you can get into the 10's with this pulley and I believe that Evosport,Kleemann and Brabus all have 168's. I can't but think that there has to be a reason why all 4 Super Tuners have
the same size pulley.

Or you can do this, sell both of them and call ASP and have them make you a 175mm pulley and keep your temps down.
Well kleemann make larger pullies also and I know for a fact that renntech has a 180 too,my only problem with the asp pulley is from there last one I had it didnt have a damper on it.

The big boy tuners take a stock e55 pulley,put some type of material on the outer pulley and attach a bigger pulley on the stock one,so your just making the stock pulley bigger and keeping it really close to oem spec.

I think IM going to install the 168 but get the file for the 175 and run a little rich but have the choice of going larger down the road if its not fast enough.
Old 09-28-2010, 02:51 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jakpro1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Salt Lake City (but not Morm)
Posts: 7,092
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 9 Posts
2003 E55 & 2014 GL550
sent you a pm skratch
Old 09-28-2010, 03:05 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
tgoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,771
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'13 GT-R AMS Alpha 9+, CLA45, E55
I'd go with the Renntech pulley. Especially with your headers and airbox I'd assume you'd be very happy... Ask me how I know lol.
Old 09-28-2010, 03:18 PM
  #6  
PREMIER SPONSOR
 
brad @ evosport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 2,922
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
None fast enough!
FYI, our pulley is the only one that does not re-use the OE damper (which is notorious for failing even on stock cars). Something to consider!

thanks
brad
Old 09-28-2010, 04:03 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Hammer Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 4,275
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
2015 E63S, 2018 E63S
Originally Posted by brad @ evosport
FYI, our pulley is the only one that does not re-use the OE damper (which is notorious for failing even on stock cars). Something to consider!

thanks
brad
Hey Brad is that rumor true about Evosport coming out with a larger pulley?
Old 09-28-2010, 04:51 PM
  #8  
PREMIER SPONSOR
 
brad @ evosport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 2,922
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
None fast enough!
yes, we have released a 175/180mm pulley. =)

thanks
Brad

Last edited by brad @ evosport; 09-28-2010 at 05:37 PM.
Old 09-28-2010, 05:36 PM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
prodigymb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Philly
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
997TT, R8 V10+, G550, Plaid S
Originally Posted by Hammer Down
I believe that Evosport,Kleemann and Brabus all have 168's. I can't but think that there has to be a reason why all 4 Super Tuners have
the same size pulley.
I was told that Evosport has been using a 175mm for a while now - that is the pulley I had on my car. It was awesome quality, never wobbled.

Originally Posted by Simon Atik @Evosport
175mm which is the biggest size you can run and make power. Anything bigger is just bigger and makes no more hp as the car just bleeds off the excess boost.
That is a response I received from Simon in December of 08 when I asked what size their pulley was.
Old 09-28-2010, 05:47 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
lowprofile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
E55
That's a no brainer, 168! Why risk anything for a few more ponies.

Angelo, I thought you had the EC pulley, not an ASP, correct? The ASP is built from a stock E55 pulley.
Old 09-28-2010, 06:32 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Hammer Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 4,275
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
2015 E63S, 2018 E63S
Originally Posted by brad @ evosport
yes, we have released a 175/180mm pulley. =)

thanks
Brad
do care to share the $$$ I wasnt planning on adding a pulley but you never know
Old 09-28-2010, 07:09 PM
  #12  
PREMIER SPONSOR
 
brad @ evosport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 2,922
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
None fast enough!
Sure.

Product Guide: http://www.evosport.com/product/vehi...Kompressor.pdf

evo1 Performance Package - Was $2995, now $2495.

Fully dampened overdrive crank pulley, Black anodized underdrive billet aluminum accessory pulley kit (water pump, alternator, power steering, belt), evo1 ECU program.

Power Gains1: +45HP/55 FT-LBS.

thanks
Brad
Old 09-28-2010, 07:22 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
MBTEK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
06 E55, 03FORD P/S,01 E320-4M,99 ML320,O4 E55,05 RUBICON UNLIMITED,
I HAD AN EVOSPORT 168 PULLEY,NO TUNE,NO PROBLEMS,I NOW RUN A 180 ASP,TUNE W/ OTHER BOLT ON'S AND HAVE NEVER LOOKED BACK.HAPPY AS CAN BE,TUNES ARE PRETTY CHEAP NOW COMPARED TO 3 YEARS AGO,AVG 19+ MPG ON THE HIGHWAY AND CAN DIG TRENCHES ON DEMAND.I WOULD STAY FAR AWAY FROM VRP PULLIES,TO MUCH HISTORY OF PROBLEMS AND WHO'S GONNA BACK IT UP IF THERE'S A PROBLEM?
Old 09-28-2010, 09:35 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Bramage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
F-250
168
Old 09-28-2010, 10:05 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
Originally Posted by lowprofile
That's a no brainer, 168! Why risk anything for a few more ponies.

Angelo, I thought you had the EC pulley, not an ASP, correct? The ASP is built from a stock E55 pulley.
The two pullies that I got from E/C were both made by ASP and the 180 wobbled like crazzy and I never installed the new 172 they sent me since it had no damper on it.

Both went back to E/C.

I don't know if ASP is using stock oem pullies now though.

I am going with a 175 thanks to jakpro1

Thanks again Jim,sending you my info now.

Ill have a renntech 168 and vrp 175 up for grabs soon guys,I think the 168 is going to a local from the forum here but if someone wants the 175 pm me.
Old 09-28-2010, 10:07 PM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Bramage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
F-250
What did Jakpro say/do to close this out?
Old 09-28-2010, 10:14 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
lowprofile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
E55
Originally Posted by skratch77
The two pullies that I got from E/C were both made by ASP and the 180 wobbled like crazzy and I never installed the new 172 they sent me since it had no damper on it.

Both went back to E/C.

I don't know if ASP is using stock oem pullies now though.
The point I was making is that you had EC pullies that wobbled.

ASP has their own design for quite some time now which are proven, and yes they start with a stock MB pulley.

Jakpro1, iirc, has a very nice Evotech pulley waiting for a new home. Looks like it found one!
Old 09-28-2010, 10:15 PM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
Originally Posted by Bramage
What did Jakpro say/do to close this out?
You have no idea of what a class act guy Jim is,by far one of the top members on here.

He offered me a 175 evotech pulley that was 2500 for FREE!!!I couldnt take that offer so Im going to send him cash once I sell the vrp pulley.

Iv gone threw hell and back trying to get my car running right and he offered me a pulley that uses a stock oem setup like renntech and kleemann.
Old 09-28-2010, 10:36 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
Originally Posted by lowprofile
The point I was making is that you had EC pullies that wobbled.

ASP has their own design for quite some time now which are proven, and yes they start with a stock MB pulley.

Jakpro1, iirc, has a very nice Evotech pulley waiting for a new home. Looks like it found one!
I had no idea that they made 2 different pullies for our cars,do you have a pic of one of there own that I can check out?

and yeah the 175 found a new home hopefully be the next pulley to get another e55 in the 10s
Old 09-28-2010, 10:52 PM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Hammer Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 4,275
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
2015 E63S, 2018 E63S
Originally Posted by skratch77
The two pullies that I got from E/C were both made by ASP and the 180 wobbled like crazzy and I never installed the new 172 they sent me since it had no damper on it.
From what I understand is that the EC/ASP pulley is a EC design but made by ASP. ASP has their own design that many have been running for years with no issues.
Old 09-28-2010, 10:57 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
lowprofile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
E55
ASP design. Not the best angle but all I have. Other have posted pics of their ASP pullies.

Old 09-28-2010, 11:01 PM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,693
Received 374 Likes on 275 Posts
2005 E55
that is the pulley my mechanic has on his car and its running perfect from day one.Why would E/C have them make another pulley when they have a proven design that works?
Old 09-28-2010, 11:07 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
lowprofile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
E55
Profit and marketing! I assume they make more money selling their own design, and they use the ASP name to help market them.
I thought there was some confusion which is why I commented.

Looking forward to reading about your upcoming PB's Good Luck
Old 09-29-2010, 12:16 AM
  #24  
Super Member
 
guysandiego's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 923
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2006 E55 AMG --old cars -- E39 M5, 2.7tt Audi S4, E36 M3 **Ducati 996, 748
I got an Evosport 168 --- it is great - I cant complain but I am sure you can get some more boost out of the E55 before it goes SH!7--

From the limited experiences that i have - I am not impressed by the 180mm... not at all.... not saying I am faster or slower -- just didnt seem like much of a difference---- but many variables !!

So, I think the 175 might be golden but no experience.
Old 09-29-2010, 12:50 AM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bassn_07's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,077
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2006 E55 AMG
I'm not sure what VRP pulley you have but several have broken off on known cars. My car was one of 3 last year and I was very lucky with the outcome, some weren't as lucky. I would be very careful about installing that 175 on your car.

With that said, I wouldn't even hesitate for a moment and go for the 175. You have supporting cooling mods and plan on adding meth. Just my $.02.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: Guys you pick for me 168 or 175



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:44 PM.