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Old 11-07-2010, 10:31 PM
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lol rain water is nothing,if anything it will drop your temps.its a free water/meth kit
lol never thought of it that way
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all i have to say be careful of deep puddles and btw i think its cool you made it yourself dont listen to those haters
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all i have to say be careful of deep puddles and btw i think its cool you made it yourself dont listen to those haters
deep puddles? how deep? 4 ft?
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1 - filters are too small
2 - heat wrap it
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Deff going to wrap it... What have you guys used???

And skratch id be down, but im pretty sure you smoke me
Old 11-08-2010, 09:45 PM
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heat soak??I know its not a turbocharged car BUT ALL my turbo cars run VERY similar intake setups and ALL have made some pretty good hp gains! (although factory airboxes were very restrictive)but like earlier posts just wrap pipes and use bigger filters and maybe some sort of heat deflector.
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As for the filters being too small, i agree. It's the best we could find without ordering K&N's that would allow for them to be down closer to the intake vents. The reverse conical filters that are in there now flow pretty well given their small size. Cars going away for the season soon so new filters will get thrown on before next spring. And performance loss due to heat intake is not as severe as you guys make it out to be. The amount of air flowing under the hood through the gill at even 40 mph is plenty to keep temps down. Of course the filters dont help, but that will be solved with different ones. The tabs on the intake vents were cut on both sides allowing for more air. The only time your going to POSSIBLY notice a loss is sitting at a stoplight on a 90 degree day. Even if it did loose a few HP overall, say 5-10, It would never be noticable on a 470 hp+ car. I didnt notice any loss or gain under regular or hard driving. The added whine of the supercharger is well worth the cheap money spent to make it, even if it lost a few HP. The pipes will be wrapped along with new filters next year. Still was able to pull a quick 60- 120mph on the highway to embarass some punk in a ricer
Old 11-08-2010, 10:17 PM
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Hey do you have a obd2 scan tool that you can monitor temps?also wondering what your coolant runs at. Mine just threw a code for coolant to cold and I don't know if my tune adjusted the temp when the therm kicks on or if my pump id stuck on.

It came on last night and it was about 29-30 out

Tonight was 45 and it never went over 187 with hard driving and was around 180-83 normal driving.

We can compare intake temps too since we're local
Old 11-09-2010, 12:38 AM
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you should probably run the 1/4 with your hood off and give us some crazy numbers.. ha
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deep puddles? how deep? 4 ft?
its a joke chill mister serious
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i know everyone wants a better setup for airflow. i dont know if you can fit thru the rad support and behind your grill but this beast is king for the 32 engines
full 3" teflon coated tubing to a 3" silicone y splitter at the t/b. high flow k&n filters up front. the drivers side has a 2.75 " reducer to allow passage thru the rad support without cutting anything.
heres some flow data from rob to show the increase.
stock slk32 intake = 446cfm
sl55 intake = 514
sl55 with devil horns = 531
single CAI with teflon = 602
dual CAI with teflon and big filters = 748

this setup shows a 20 rwhp inc in the s/c 3.2 engine in my 32
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Last edited by 320 dreamer; 12-25-2010 at 12:24 PM. Reason: editied the srt-6 to slk32. same intake
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great info thanks why doesnt anyone do this on e55
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I might do something like that,but only do the front filters where he did them in front of the rad,I will keep the rest of my setup the way it is and take the filters out of the renntech box!

so basically adding the filters up front and hooking them up to the python tubes.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
I might do something like that,but only do the front filters where he did them in front of the rad,I will keep the rest of my setup the way it is and take the filters out of the renntech box!

so basically adding the filters up front and hooking them up to the python tubes.
one of the equations to the dual cai is smooth flow. by running the air to the oem boxes the flow has to make a 90* turn into the top of the boxes then into the tubes(rippled) to the y splitter. this creates a large amount of turbulence. if you examine the gentle ccurves of the tubing from the front to the y splitter you nothing to create turbulence.
if your set on keeping the oem setup call rob for his "devil horns" they will help direct more air to the boxes.
you can see form the flow # the oem flows substantially less than the dual cai

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Im running bigger carbon tubes and a renntech air box that gets rid of the y pipe all together,not really trying to remove them but getting rid of the filters in the box might help a little.
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
i know everyone wants a better setup for airflow. i dont know if you can fit thru the rad support and behind your grill but this beast is king for the 32 engines
full 3" teflon coated tubing to a 3" silicone y splitter at the t/b. high flow k&n filters up front. the drivers side has a 2.75 " reducer to allow passage thru the rad support without cutting anything.
heres some flow data from rob to show the increase.
stock slk32 intake = 446cfm
sl55 intake = 514
sl55 with devil horns = 531
single CAI with teflon = 602
dual CAI with teflon and big filters = 748

this setup shows a 20 rwhp inc in the s/c 3.2 engine in my 32
How did you measure the flow? Is that actual flow or math model?
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How did you measure the flow? Is that actual flow or math model?
hers the link for your to enjoy. test were done on a flow bench
http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ch-tested.html

skratch i understand the concept of the renntech tubes and boxes. i tried sl55 setups slk32 modded airboxes with stainless tubing and devil horns homeade tube sets like the dual cai but all had so much turbulence you lose airflow. regardless of the renntech top the air still has a 90* direction to go and pass thru filters in the middle of the stream creating turbulence. i wanted more than anything to keep my center logo and the airboxes but flow # dont lie!
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SUPERCHARGER MUCH LOUDER?... I WILL TRY TO CUSTOM MY 55K THIS STYLE INTAKE TOO...
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SUPERCHARGER MUCH LOUDER?... I WILL TRY TO CUSTOM MY 55K THIS STYLE INTAKE TOO...
some think its a louder whine, but i have res and cat delete so i really dont hear it . car accelerates so fast not much time to anything but pay attention to the road!
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
i know everyone wants a better setup for airflow. i dont know if you can fit thru the rad support and behind your grill but this beast is king for the 32 engines
full 3" teflon coated tubing to a 3" silicone y splitter at the t/b. high flow k&n filters up front. the drivers side has a 2.75 " reducer to allow passage thru the rad support without cutting anything.
heres some flow data from rob to show the increase.
stock slk32 intake = 446cfm
sl55 intake = 514
sl55 with devil horns = 531
single CAI with teflon = 602
dual CAI with teflon and big filters = 748

this setup shows a 20 rwhp inc in the s/c 3.2 engine in my 32
Sweet set up.

You have to appreciate the actual testing that was done and the results speak for themselves!

I am sure a filter change will make even more of a difference. Either the XStream K&N's or the Weapon R SW velocity filters would do the trick!
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Originally Posted by TTMotorsports
Sweet set up.

You have to appreciate the actual testing that was done and the results speak for themselves!

I am sure a filter change will make even more of a difference. Either the XStream K&N's or the Weapon R SW velocity filters would do the trick!
needswings is a first rate shop. they test everything they have on their srt-6 at the track for real world results. a member on the xfire forum named woody is the genius designer and he has a desire to tear everything apart and make it better!
the filters on mine were dirty b ut cleaned and oiled now. the problem with using bigger filters is fitting them behind the grill. i actually had to have a custom grill built to house everything in front. not cheap!
i do have the xstream k&n's for the track. remove the grill and let em flow!!
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
needswings is a first rate shop. they test everything they have on their srt-6 at the track for real world results. a member on the xfire forum named woody is the genius designer and he has a desire to tear everything apart and make it better!
the filters on mine were dirty b ut cleaned and oiled now. the problem with using bigger filters is fitting them behind the grill. i actually had to have a custom grill built to house everything in front. not cheap!
i do have the xstream k&n's for the track. remove the grill and let em flow!!
I'll echo everything Steve has said thus far... NW is a top-rate organization and the owner is a rare gem. Customer service is top-notch. I'm running the C320 airbox ONLY because I love the look, and the top of the 320 w/o an engine cover looks pretty funky. If I could get a more sanitary way to hide the fuel rail/harnesses, I'd ne running a NW intake in no time. The track numbers speak for themselves, and I'm more than willing to bet that the E55 guys could truly benefit from these intakes. I've been for a ride in Steve's car, and it will absolutely pin you to the seat.

Stock SRT-6s have gained as much as .5 seconds in the 1/4 from just the NW dual intake alone, no tune.
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would love to hear a video clip of the intake
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would love to hear a video clip of the intake
Hop over to YouTube and search for "SRT-6 vs Viper"...

He's running a NW intake. Considering how quiet the 32/SRT-6 is, it's quite an increase in noise.


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