LZH

since we're going into the WAY BACK machine regarding the 63 platform v the 55k platform...and referencing old posts, rivalries etc...I find it interesting that nobody is talking about the fact that all these amazing 63 NA times are being produced by MHP tuned cars...a tuner that almost EVERYONE on here doubted and ridiculed - yet they seem to be at the top of the tuning game. Nobody has anything to say about that ? Where is that douche ChiroMikey when I need him LOL ??!!!!

MB_Forever

Luis's runs are amazing..... he is now only 0.11 seconds away from Alan's all time record

The racing season this year has been more than phenomenal and it's not even over yet

mthis

thank you



this was our only good day we had this year. dont get me wrong we had great days just today was the icying on the cake. when i made my 11.1 pass it was negative 1500DA according to dragtimes.

MBH motorsports

I don't know what there is to call bullspit on.... The times are the times. Unless they slip the time clock guy a bill, this is legit. You have to take into consideration the DA. it like racing in the abyss. Where some of us only see a DA of +1500ft on the best day. So If you take that 3000ft swing. its totally possible.

I'd bet out here in AZ you would be hard pressed to get a C63 to run 11.5.

When I was racing my C55 I ran a 11.72 at 119mph in Arizona DA was +1800ft The at Famoso last year I ran an 11.55 at 121mph IIRC. Mo correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the DA was +600ft??? at the time. Thats a gain of 0.17sec just from air changes. Not to mention so small factors like lowering my car, messing up my camber (wheel spin). and my transmission that was on its last leg. Then ended up crapping out at the end of the day.

Point is Its all possible. The weather does awesome things when it cold for racers. With that said.. I think these times are 100% real, Thes guys kept at it and pushed hard to get where they are.

Zod

Lets see, you supported the guy and he turned into a sham lots of hot air, and no successful results on any other platform other than the C & u had no face to show (pssst throttle blipping, TCU tuning and all that magic we were promised )

If you are referencing the older times, then you must know he changed tuners... in fact can u actuly say there are from him and not some other tuner and just relabeled crossed my mind a few time...

any hoo some sick times produced!
Just goes to show what the right weather and track and allot of determination can do!
congrats guys!

LZH

Not sure what you're getting at here...but it just solidifies my point even more...Yes Andy had a very brash way about him and ticked most everyone off. But here we are how many years later and his tune is kicking the ***** out of just about everyone. Is this simply due to him changing tuners as you suggested??? Who knows....but what I do know is that MHP seems to be offering a very good product while everyone said they were scammers, crooks etc. Now the show is on the other foot and it seems everyone want to ignore the past and conveniently sweep it under the rug

MB_Forever

Guys, lets not muddy up this thread please.....

Rboosting just ran 11.99 @ 118.23 mph in his E63 with MHP TUNE ONLY

Keep the good times coming everybody....

kompressede

Congrats to all the guy's with those low ET's today.

To the haters - start another thread. . . .

propain

Nice work Randy!!

Hammer Down

Don't you know I'm Loco

Dads C63

Great job guys!!!!!!

jrcart, where were you earlier this year when we ran 11.24 in Florida for Pete's sake. If we can run 11.24 in Florida you can certainly run 10.99 up north in better conditions. Stop questioning the results based on modifications just because you weren't there and didn't do it. Good grief!!

bassn_07

Loco, Dodger, and Mthis....!

All you guys deserve huge props for putting the work in. Forget about the haters, I went through all the same crap with my car and still do. Bottom line, you guys ran the times and there's not one thing anyone could say to discredit that.

Luis....you're ***** is just plain wicked!!!! I look forward to seeing your car dip even lower before winter is done....

LZH

I have to say these are some VERY quick times for cars with just a tune and headers and some other minor mods...I have to wonder why these 2 cars are running 11.1's while many of the cars with identical mods are running a half second slower A half second is a pretty big difference for an 11 sec car...
Perhaps its just good driving...but I will agree that the 63 motor LOVES good cold DENSE air. I can tell a HUGE difference in my car between a hot sticky day and cool crisp night. Maybe that's the secret with these cars - heat. Either way, nice runs guys.
Lastly....I know MHP was trying to do some head work one the 63 motors - did that ever happen ?

blackbenzz

DA is no secret Of course cars go faster with cooler denser air.

indyjoe

lol

dodger63

Simple answer hagi (mthis) and me have been a$$hole buddies going to the track helping watching testing side by side.. Then you throw into the mix.. Keith (dadsc63) and you got a winning team.. Not to be an a$$ or big head or anything but I beat any of the 3 of us could show some of these other guys how to drop some time!! Hagi and I have been to many rentals together and like I said watch learn teach each other.., 15 runs for him 20 for me today means we have combined 45 runs times the amount of rentals weve been at adds up??? I've been to some of these tracks were guys with the same cars don't talk shop or aren't even honest about what there doing.. We are evolving and learning 2 times faster then most of these guys... We don't compete we are happy helping each other and others this is fun for me a good day at the track does nothing for me after I leave!! I go home same bills same problems same crying sick kids lets all get along better and learn more instead of some people hating.. Ask questions no one knows it all we learn everyday.. So let's work together hear or not......

MB_Forever

Unfortunately only Keith's car got the ported heads. The problem with ported heads is that the benefits are minor compared to cost If it was cheaper, I think more people would go for it.

One point I did want to mention though was that these two cars are NOT the only cars running good times. Every single MHP car have posted great track results whether it was tune-only, tuner-header, or more. It's not only one car of theirs that posted good times. The only difference with these two cars today, as you mentioned earlier, was the weather. I personally notice a big difference when driving my car in the winter vs the summer. By the way, Keith's car (DadsC63) ran 11.21 @ 124 mph in Florida, which is no MIR or ATCO. There is no doubt the MHP cars are just running stronger than others (at least for now).

LZH

I was just agreeing with what others in this thread have said re DA and giving my own impressions you douche. No need to start throwing around and take this thread down that path...but if you want to, I'm game.

LZH

Thanks for the info - man...Keiths car with that louvered hood for heat, cams and added flow from heads is gonna be SICK.

Raleighc63

Is the track open on Sat Dec 4th? I called the track but no answer.. The schedule online is not clear..

dodger63

Which atco yes this and next Saturday test and tune only so rules are very strict!!

Hammer Down

+1 and to add to that so that there isn't any confusion let the owners of the cars do the talking. If you don't own the car don't discuss others mods let the owner do the talking.

MB_Forever

I know.... once the cams are dialed in, his car will be one strong contender It's hard to imagine how the NA 63 engine with weak tranny is still able to go freakin 10s with relatively simple mods

Hammer Down

I was waiting for your response

RStevens63

The cars running half a second and 3-5mph slower are running different parts and tuning. The same parts have been replaced however the brands are different. I think this makes for an important distinction.

Every record posted is set in cooler air, no one sets records in the summer as I'm sure you know. All the stock C6Z06 10.9 runs and Viper ACR runs by Ranger and Jamie F. were done in the same kind of air.

Last I talked to MHP they had 8 or more cars running their ported heads. The gains are claimed at 18rwhp for an otherwise stock vehicle. Honestly as good as these heads appear to be that's a large gain all else being equal. Now where they will really shine is when paired to their cams and headers, etc.

We've also found in the past few weeks how restrictive the stock air inlets and air boxes are, and we haven't seen any ported heads or cams paired with a revised inlet aka RENNtech or Gruppe M.

I think as a 63 owner we are finally sampling what's possible with solid mods and should be hopeful for an even brighter future.