Meeyatch1

Okay, so I was thinking about how many things you can do to the E55 to make it wicked fast, and how challenged the E63 is in terms of making big power. So, with that in mind, and a little bit of free time.....I started to think that I could sell my E63, buy an E55 with lower mileage, put about $10,000 in my pocket, and walk with the ability to make a car stupid fast if I wanted to.

Has anyone done this before? What are your thoughts on doing this? I love my E63, but I cannot help but be tempted.

E55Bullet

Do it!

jpohl402

I have done it....
Nothing wrong with that

tbal

I've driven a E63, and comparing it to the E55, I picked the 55 hands down. The torque just felt so much better in the 55. Asides from that, I love the appearance of the E63 over the E55. BUT you can always add those mods to your E55 anyways

Not to knock on the 63 motors, I've also driven a C63 and I would take that over my E55 in a heart beat (But its too small for me). Its a totally different experiance.

If your into modding, and want a GO FAST go with the E55...

emoving

I drove swadhanis 09 E63 after I sold my E55 and that made my decision to get the CLS55 over the 63. Nice engine but just not the same.

E55Bullet

55's are great and fun to mod, but remember when modding comes lots of stress, headaches, risks, and down time. 63's are a beautiful motor, and will pretty much always perform the same, 55's run extremely fast given the right conditions. If you really want the punch, hold out for the new TT V8.

E55Bullet

or buy a 55 and lets start modding!

jpohl402

Mitch,
Since no-one else has yet said it - the 63 is a FANTASTIC motor, and you may very well miss it !! But in order to save some money, the 55 is not a bad choice - i.e. nothing wrong with the motor. Most prefer it as you know. But stock for stock, 63 is better in my eyes. I put over 30k miles on mine !!

If money were no concern, and I must have an E-class, I would have a 63 - no doubt. I don't EXTREMELY mod (don't want the headaches) and the 63 is a more refined, balanced car. The interior is better, the exterior is better, the engine/tranny is smoother, and the car is NEWER - hence the word folks, AMG does not take steps backward - newer equals more advanced/updated, in their eyes - better, PERIOD !!

Everyone on this board is a ****** hater, most with not a lot of seat time in 63's (sorry for generalization) - DIFFERENT cars people, each appeals to different crowd to some degree. Hell I love both cars.
How many of you people have EXTENSIVELY driven something like a Ferrari or Porsche GT3 - high revving, naturally aspirated motors can be great. In town, you need to maximize the revs to take full potential (63 lacking torque down low) - but when done properly, its enjoyable. Hence the word, DIFFERENT STYLE OF DRIVING. I don't think some people get that !!

Sure, if you want to mod a ton (you said you may) get the 55 - more options/more possibilities/more fun waiting for parts then installing parts, dyno-ing, etc.... Can't go wrong with either choice bro.

Meeyatch1

All good points, and I appreciate them. Here is where I am a bit torn. I agree that the look and interior of the E63 I favor much more than the E55. A lot of the little touches they did to the E63 are to my liking, and I always find myself looking back at it whenever I walk in someplace, and usually say to myself, 'Damn...I am one lucky guy to have a car that stunning'.

With regards to speed, I do like the more instant punch of the E55, and the fact that with relatively minor mods (ECU reflash, headers, air boxes, pulley, and throttle body) the car car be made even more brutally fast. I love the 'wolf in sheeps clothing' personality of both of the cars, and making the E55 even more wickedly fast with just a few bolt-ons is pretty cool.

On the flip side, I find the engine note of the E63 to be amazingly deep and throaty. Plus, the naturally aspirated engine seems to me (right or wrong) to have greater long term reliability due to there simply being less moving parts, if you will.

I have mostly had naturally aspirated cars (NSXs, 911, 348ts, S2000, etc.) and appreciate the engineering that goes into the naturally aspirated motors, but my E63 blows away every car I have owned in terms of brutal speed. The downside of that is that now I am hooked, and wanting more.

I think what I may do is find an E55 to drive and then drive my E63 back to back so that I can get an apples to apples impression in the same day. It is awfully temping to look to trade for a white E55 with Panoramic roof though.

lawguy

Even though they're rarer than unicorns...LOL.

MB_Forever

If you want serious power, then you should get the E55. With very few (and very simple) bolt-on mods, the car has the ability to run 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile at near 130 mph. And aside from the massive hp increase, the torque gains are phenomenal You'll pretty much have enough torque to lift the front end off the ground Also the mods are relatively cheap compared to trying to get similar power on the 63.

You're right though about the exhaust note and the small refinement you get with the E63. You WILL miss them..... decisions, decisions

E55Bullet

Mitch, I think you should hold off until spring. We will have a local gathering and I'll let you get some seat time in my e55. It is tasfully modded. I think you'll fall in love with it, but it is a night and day difference between modded and stock. The sound the 55k with header is amazing but nothing compared to a 63, but it still has a "get the hell out of my way" tone.

-Chad

jdeastbay

I currently have both, 100% stock. 55 is wifes DD. But when I do drive the 55, agree with all the low end torque cannot be compared. My 2 cents, that is the only benefit over the 63. I prefer the 63s interior / exterior / NA engine / compression of that engine / exhaust note and handling.

As I said before, both are amazing cars and it just comes down to what's important to you.

Meeyatch1

LOL!! Actually, when I was looking into the E55 I found quite a few. Made an offer on one on the East Coast and the guy backed out.

Meeyatch1

Cool! Thank you. I would appreciate that very much.

Meeyatch1

LOL!! The funny thing is that I tried to convince my wife to sell her Evo IX and get an E55 so that I would not have to choose. She thought that was overkill. DOH!!

sack5000

I'm happy you guys can talk about the comparisons between 63 and 55 now. In the past this discussion would have morphed into a verbal sparring match.

I sit here and read a lot of various posts and the differences noted are now accepted by all enthusiasts.

I have to admit that the "lifting off the ground" of the front end - aka LOCO 05' E55, should be experienced by all and then well, the interior and front bumper of the 63 would not matter:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...sssssssss.html

E55Dimon

I know if I had no idea what the E55 was capable of, and I bought an E63, I'd be selling it shortly to buy the E55 and mod it. But maybe thats just me.

WPOZZZ

Just saw an old guy driving one yesterday.

E55Bullet

Well I know this thread is going well but us modded 55 guys would never buy a 63. lol

lawguy

Yep. Its just you.

I like the "refreshened" look of the styling changes on the e63. As important to me as how it drives. Gotta look good too...

220S

I personally prefer NA motors, but for everyday street driving and getting your jollies the SC E55 is the way to go. But I bought my E63 specifically as a daily driver grocery getter, and not as a modding project rocket. The refinement of the NA is really nice in that respect. But if you want giggles at every streetlight then go with the E55, for certain.

That said, the M156 and M159 (the dry sump SLS version) motors are two of the best big displacement high compression V8s ever made. There's a reason they popped one in their new 'super car' SLS. I was at the LA Car Show and the product managers said that the ONLY reason AMG went with turbos in the upcoming more common AMGs (E, S, CLS, etc..) is because of the big money they've had to spend on CAFE fines. They've paid out over $200 million in just fines alone. Thomas Weber said the goal is to not pay any more. They can still use the M159 in the SLS and the new AMGs will offset the CAFE violations of the SLS.

jmsod

Newer = better? Most of the time this is true but not in this case. AMG is basically admitting that they made a mistake with the E63 since they are quickly switching back to a turbo-charged version the next go around.
Don't get me wrong, the E63 is a great car, but it is not a step forward from the E55. It's more like a step sideways and a little backwards IMO.

220S

Wrong. They're doing it for monetary and production reasons. Read my post above. You can ask Daimler themselves, I did.

Max.H

63 > 55. It'is newer, nicer, and sounds better.