emoving

.....no shiat! What a piece of crap! That hood shot and close up or the left rear tail light are telling! Either that thing was hit hard or Ford builders are on crack when they align panels!....

K-A

Yeah, lol. Unfortunately, the Mustang has always been notorious for extremely poor panel alignment (downright sloppy really). I thought the new ones might have sharpened that up, but doesn't seem to be the case.

Not as bad as Maserati Quattroporte's interior though! Saggy panels like Grandma's *****.

rondocap

Someone mentioned the Z06 - and actually I second that, if you want a pure sports car. I think for the money, nothing will equal the performance or excitement of the Z06. You can get the C6 in the low 40's now, and it's a very fast car and handles very well.

Having said that, if you still need a daily driver or something more practical, I'd just keep the E63 - IMO AMG's have their own muscular character as well, while not as raw as a Z06, they are comfortable and powerful as well.

emoving

VMX

If it's not an AMG it's crap? That says it all. It also does not cost a fortune to service and will rip the AMG a new one. Not my kind of forum.

Quadcammer

I hope to god you aren't talking about the picture where the trunk is open.

The panel gaps are fine...you aren't buying the car for that.

Panel gaps on ferraris are absolute dog****, but who cares, right?

EmE247

Although I never had an AMG nor a SHELBY... I might be able to help you out a bit.

I got my first Benz W210 when it first came out. Then got into a BMW 550 when that first came out. Then got a modded out 08 Mustang GT to save some money. Sold that about a year later and picked up a 08 W211. Then got my 11 W212 about a month ago. My bro had 2 AMGs that I drove around a handful of times, the W211 E55 and E63.

The Mustang is a FUN car to drive. Nothing like zipping around with the manual transmission. The Benzs and BMWs are nice to drive, but don't even come close to driving a Mustang "fun"wise. I still miss driving my Mustang. AMGs are great powerwise and dropping the hammer, but you won't be taking corners and handling like the Mustang.

EVERYTHING ELSE sucked about the Mustang. Namely the comfort. I couldn't stand the Mustang's interior/seats and the comfort of it. I guess I wouldn't have minded it if I were still rather young, ie. highschool / college where comfort would have taken a back seat to the "fun". But having been used to more luxurious cars and their interiors, the Mustang had to go.

I know the Shelby has a better interior/seats than the Mustang GT, but it's more leather in place of where the cloth would be and not actually a different interior. I could be wrong with that last statement, but i'm pretty sure the interior/seats of the Shelby are no where in comparison with comfort to the Benzs.

That being said, i think it's a matter of whether you are looking for a more "fun" car to drive or a more luxurious/comfortable car to drive. You obviously can't go wrong with either one...

Evolved8

What will rip the AMG a new one? Please enlighten us...

gonzales25

I see your point, I went from an E46 M3 to the E63 because I wanted a change and the AMG has been nice with the comfort and speed. But I guess I'm just itching for a change again.. Like I said earlier I will probably hold out for 2012 Shelby keep it for a couple years, because by then I will want the comfort of the Mercedes again . The way I look at it I still have the my wifes ML63 when I need the comfort that only Mercedes provides..But she has already told me that if I get the Shelby I cant use her ML if or when I get tired of the Shelby LOL.

EmE247

Lemme know when you're bored with the Shelby and we can swap for however long you want!

emoving

Good.....then GTF out!

amg_4_life

Agreed . . . panels are all over the place . . . not bad for union work though . . .

I believe the 2010's are the last of the iron block . . . 2011's+ are all aluminum . . .

K-A

I really hope the trunk is open (odd that it would be open while taking pictures, though), 'cause that looks atrocious. Also, look sat the hood-bumpers-fenders alignment, all sloppy. Not sure about Ferrari's (though, I did make the comment about Maserati's shoddy fit and finish), but any car I'd buy, I'd appreciate it to have good fit and finish. But, yeah, on a Mustang, it's easier to look past it, then on other cars (let's just call it part of the Mustang heritage and "charm ).

You know what they say: Once you own a (good) Mustang, you'll always crave that "Mustang" feeling. My old GT was so much fun to drive, however, I know, now, with my matured and "refined" (spoiled) taste, I'd find it hard to live in.... Which is why it would be a perfect car for just spirited IMO.

Reliability wise, I agree that not many cars will beat a Mustang. Through my Mustang experiences, although they're appropriately rough around the edges in ways, they're as durable as it gets.

Also, to note: The '10+ Mustangs have VASTLY improved interiors.... VASTLY. It's actually something that I could see myself being pretty comfortable in.

The '05-'09 models have the sh*ttiest excuse for an interior. I drove one long distance once, and it was the worst "living-space" one could ask for. The sight, smell, and feel of it, induced vomit reflexes.

justthebest

Jesus. Where do I start...

I'd rather pull up to a party that doesn't care. OR, if they do, which they usually do, I'd want them to appreciate my 6-figure GL550 / 550hp Shelby / arguably best pickup ever made.

Worst part of any - and EVERY - Mustang = solid rear axle.

Probably just keep up, if we're talking stock to stock. A 2011 GT500 I know of put 506 rwhp down STOCK.

The thought of pre-owned always put me on edge. I know right before I traded a recent vehicle I smoked SO MUCH rubber around the neighborhood.

I think this is a more insightful comment than it appears (no offense meant to Evolved). I miss my AMG. Period. The growl that came with a cold start was epic, even though the rumble of the Shelby is menacing. They're two different machines with different sets of strengths.

HA. Gentleman my ***.

Z06, maybe, but your "ugh" comment just shows that you probably haven't stopped by a Ford dealer lately. Really. Go check them out. Like them or not, they've improved significantly in almost every respect.

Let's be honest - 99.9999(etc.)% of the world's population can't tell an AMG from a normal MB. If you want to really turn heads, buy a Lotus or something.

And as a side note, I think a Shelby would be more accurately characterized as an "American Legend" rather than a "kids car."

The trim level is significantly different, but it's not like you have to light a candle in a reflector for the headlight. And ditto to everything else.

The alignment on mine's pretty spot-on. And let's not talk about previous Mustangs. <puke>

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My general thoughts on the '11 GT500 (coming from a '10 P30 C63): This is one of the most engaging & visceral vehicles I've driven. The deep gurgle when I fire it up is unique, and obviously the modding potential is epic (~650rwhp with a SC swap and tune). I'm probably going to keep mine stock for a while, as 550 hp at the crank is more than I can realistically get to the pavement without a track. That said, I miss my C63 - the party & the friends appreciated it, but I have a cop-out regarding that dilemma in the form of a GL550. So I think the bottom line is (as unhelpful as this always is), go for what you want. I know the E63, regardless of the year, is a BEAST. And you can have your butt cooled on those hot days. But there's no shifter in an E class, and once you hit 550hp in an E63, your warranty is definitely toeing the line should anything go wrong. Good luck.

PS - the deciding moment for me came when I was racing a white w/ blue stripes Shelby through downtown on I-25. That exhaust note & the sheer pulling ability sold me while my *** was in my C63.

emoving

LOL.....touched a nerve there. Whatever you say! The quality of a FORD is crap as can be seen in the photos of the white one! The pulling up to the party line is a figure of speech......figure it out.

gonzales25

Thanks Justthebest for the great reply, I was lurking on svtperformance and saw a thread you started about mods for the Shelby. I feel the same way after I test drove the GT500 the power felt so raw! I am happy with E63 but I go thru cars a little too often for my wifes liking

I saw comments about it being a kids car and the Mercedes is for a certain level of maturity and such. I don't think that has anything to do with it, I'm 41 maybe I just need to grow up But I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon

Anyway.... thanks again to everyone for the great comments I'm going to stick with E63 till the 2012 Shelbys come out, they will have Recarro seats

Ohh yea, where I live no body knows what an AMG its just another E class

HI GANUISH

First of all before I even get started, this guy is a complete bonehead. Not many people know what a GT500 is? How many people outside of this forum know what an AMG is? In comparison to those that know what a GT500 is... As previously stated by another member, a Mustang is an icon. On another note, a Shelby GT500 is a kids car? Are you kidding me, have you looked at prices of used AMGs these days. You wanna talk about kids cars. Those things hold their value like I hold my bowels after a nice all you can eat Happy Garden chinese buffet. But back to my original point, emoving is a complete cement head, "if its not a Benz its no good." Thanks.

HI GANUISH

I dont own a GT500 and I'm not saying I would take one over an e63 either but you have to give them respect you dumb f*ck

Quadcammer

lol, I'm certain you don't want me to get out the feeler gauges for the gaps on your car.

MB quality is generally good. Ford quality is generally good.

The quality of both cars is appropriate for their price points.

K-A

Nahh, I think that's going a bit overboard. My Chevy Malibu has clean and precise (enough, at least) panel gaps, compared to that Mustang. The W211's gaps aren't exactly tight as can be, but they're usually aligned very well. My W212's panel gaps are laser precise, tight, etc. (with the exception of the wide-ish gaps from the side-ends of the clamshell bonnet, but such is the price of the EU pedestrian regulations, and M-B thankfully finding a way around caving into BMW-like ugly flat faced front ends, on the E at least).

I think Ford has upped the ante on their newest models, which are true reflections of where the brand is today. My prediction is the 50th Anniversary Mustang, being released under Fords best Management in modern times, should be expected to eradicate the "nostalgia" of earlier Mustang panel gap charm.

emoving

Go back under the rock you crawled from under you wana be! Hang your Neon keys up and go back to the Ford forum.

emoving

Go ahead and get your gauge out, but as far as that white one goes...no gauge needed!Just saying!

E55Bullet

Ford= Trailer Park, Benz= Lake house

justthebest

Love these comments. No need to argue with them (res ipsa loquitur, as it were).

HI GANUISH

haha the wizard is getting all flustered......