HEADERS GOT CHERRY RED WITHIN SECONDS
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HEADERS GOT CHERRY RED WITHIN SECONDS
I have an 03 E55 with stage 4 Kleemans kit,torque converter,and LET tune.The car ran true until recently when i suffered a broken piston ring.Even so the car ran strong with just a small amount of blue smoke.
I installed a G55 motor,and transfer all Kleemans stage4 goodies from the E55 engine to the G55 engine.Everything fit well,the car start up and idle smoothly and everything work fine.I went to heat cycle it and held the throttle down for about 15-20 seconds,and the headers got so red hot they glows.I have not driven the car in fear of damage.There is no check engine light or anything,and the mechanic has recheck everything and have not found any problems.............Anyone have ever experience anything like this,or have any ideas as to what might cause this.
I installed a G55 motor,and transfer all Kleemans stage4 goodies from the E55 engine to the G55 engine.Everything fit well,the car start up and idle smoothly and everything work fine.I went to heat cycle it and held the throttle down for about 15-20 seconds,and the headers got so red hot they glows.I have not driven the car in fear of damage.There is no check engine light or anything,and the mechanic has recheck everything and have not found any problems.............Anyone have ever experience anything like this,or have any ideas as to what might cause this.
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Why dont you run the K4 file? its rated at 640hp email Cory at sales@kleemannusa.com and get the right tune on that car.
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KLEEMANS STG 4
kleemans cam
kleemans headers
kleemans TB
kleemans lock up
180 pully
front mount H/E
rear trunk mount cooler
torque converter
LET tune
The car made 535 rwhp/620 rwtq
Like i said the car was a beast,and ran flawless,until i broke the piston ring.
Maybe it was red hot before and i did not notice,until now that we were checking everything because of the new install.
kleemans cam
kleemans headers
kleemans TB
kleemans lock up
180 pully
front mount H/E
rear trunk mount cooler
torque converter
LET tune
The car made 535 rwhp/620 rwtq
Like i said the car was a beast,and ran flawless,until i broke the piston ring.
Maybe it was red hot before and i did not notice,until now that we were checking everything because of the new install.
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Wideband would definitely tell you where your afr's are. I have one installed in my car and definitely monitor it. Gives you insight into what is going on. Don't beat on the car. If you see it going lean stop the pull. Were your headers glowing on both sides? Sucks about the engine, I am afraid of that.
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The grand majority of the time, when headers glow red, it's not because it's lean but rather because ignition timing is way too low. If you have a scanner that can read ignition timing I'd bet it's in the single digits when revved.
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Yes they were glowing on both sides.I was thinking that it's very unlikely that both cats are bad at the same time,or is it normal.I'm gonna try and check the A/F ratio if i can tomorrow to see how lean it is.
At this point i'm lost,so chime in with whatever idea you may have.
At this point i'm lost,so chime in with whatever idea you may have.
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Back in the late 80's I had a crate motor installed in my 1985 Corvette. When we first started the car and let it reach operating temp, the car temp continued to climb and the long tube headers started to glow. Turned out the mechanic installed the TPI manifold gaskets backwards. Prevented the coolent from circulating.
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Back in the late 80's I had a crate motor installed in my 1985 Corvette. When we first started the car and let it reach operating temp, the car temp continued to climb and the long tube headers started to glow. Turned out the mechanic installed the TPI manifold gaskets backwards. Prevented the coolent from circulating.
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I had a chance to unhook the exhaust system to see if it was the cats that was stopped up,but the headers was still cherry red and glowing ,so that eliminate any thoughts of the cats being clogged.
I have had the MB AMG tech retrace the installation and insure me that everything is fine,so since there in no tuner close by i think i will send off for a box tune.
If anyone else have any more ideas please let me know.........anyone?
I have had the MB AMG tech retrace the installation and insure me that everything is fine,so since there in no tuner close by i think i will send off for a box tune.
If anyone else have any more ideas please let me know.........anyone?
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Just check your air fuels to be safe. If they check out then I say you are fine. Could be lean but also could be rich and fuel is burning in the headers. Our cars are famous for spooking and dumping fuel to protect the engine. May just end up being nothing at all. Check those air fuels and let us know.
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I have an 03 E55 with stage 4 Kleemans kit,torque converter,and LET tune.The car ran true until recently when i suffered a broken piston ring.Even so the car ran strong with just a small amount of blue smoke.
I installed a G55 motor,and transfer all Kleemans stage4 goodies from the E55 engine to the G55 engine.Everything fit well,the car start up and idle smoothly and everything work fine.I went to heat cycle it and held the throttle down for about 15-20 seconds,and the headers got so red hot they glows.I have not driven the car in fear of damage.There is no check engine light or anything,and the mechanic has recheck everything and have not found any problems.............Anyone have ever experience anything like this,or have any ideas as to what might cause this.
I installed a G55 motor,and transfer all Kleemans stage4 goodies from the E55 engine to the G55 engine.Everything fit well,the car start up and idle smoothly and everything work fine.I went to heat cycle it and held the throttle down for about 15-20 seconds,and the headers got so red hot they glows.I have not driven the car in fear of damage.There is no check engine light or anything,and the mechanic has recheck everything and have not found any problems.............Anyone have ever experience anything like this,or have any ideas as to what might cause this.
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Back in the late 80's I had a crate motor installed in my 1985 Corvette. When we first started the car and let it reach operating temp, the car temp continued to climb and the long tube headers started to glow. Turned out the mechanic installed the TPI manifold gaskets backwards. Prevented the coolent from circulating.
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Its not uncommon for headers to glow red under a heat cycle. How much it glows red can be a from a few things. One being the gauge of the steel. Thinner steel will glow more than thicker steel as the steel has less material to dissipate the heat to.
Even on a good tune, you will get some header glow when the RPMs get up there.
Here is a video of our headers glowing red on the dyno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLszGSxC1o
Even on a good tune, you will get some header glow when the RPMs get up there.
Here is a video of our headers glowing red on the dyno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLszGSxC1o
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I had a 410 small block Chevy that did that on start up its was timing and it was almost instant that they started to glow. Make sure all of you harness are correct. And that you have the correct file on ECU.
