W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Cold weather question related to suspension - help please

Old Jan 12, 2011 | 02:05 AM
  #1  
jpohl402's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 2
From: PHX/PIE/OMA ---> Yes, all three
E55 then E63, now back to an E55
Cold weather question related to suspension - help please

Hello,
My car was an Arizona car until 2 months ago, and has never seen cold weather at all. This evening was by far the coldest day yet this winter - about 5 below.
I have had air struts go out in past, got warning message on dash, familiar with symptoms, etc. However, when that occurred, only the corner the strut was leaking would dump.
Anyway, I left my car parked outside for about 5.5 hours. When I came outside, the whole thing was slammed. I am talking 2-3 inches from ground. I was stunned. So I started her up, and raised the suspension. It raised just fine. I proceeded to drive about 10 mins home with zero warning messages on dash.

Could cold weather cause all air to leak out in such a short time span? I found that odd, and again was quite stunned. Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 02:18 AM
  #2  
AMGPilot's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 28
From: SOCAL
2004 E55
Moisture in the system probally froze an outflow valve open
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 01:23 PM
  #3  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,020
Likes: 532
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
Originally Posted by AMGPilot
Moisture in the system probally froze an outflow valve open
I would concur with that assessment
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 02:41 PM
  #4  
jpohl402's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 2
From: PHX/PIE/OMA ---> Yes, all three
E55 then E63, now back to an E55
I know front corners have the struts - what is the story with the rears though?

Twice now - first this morning around 8:30am, I came out to the garage & saw (only) the left rear corner sagged over the tire. Rest of car was normal (though unbalanced.)
Raised her up, then set back to Sport 1, & drove the car for 10 mins to destination. NO error messages on dash to check suspension.
About 3.5 hrs later, came outside to the exact SAME issue. Repeated procedure - raised, set to sport 1, drove. Drove for about an hour, no issues or warnings.
Though I suspect next time I come out to car, it will be sagged again. Opinions please?
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 03:26 PM
  #5  
Yuille36's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Veteran: Marine Corps
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,020
Likes: 532
From: Alexandria, VA
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
You have either a bad shock, or it could be the air lines, or distribution block, or air compressor, but most likely its the air shock. Something is not holding air in the shock, that is where the sagging is coming from. I had this same issues in 09, took it in and they had to replace the rear air shock, all under warranty Granted there will be some settling in the suspension, but not sagging to either side, that's unacceptable. Have it checked out, because it can develope in a complete collapse. While the car is running the air compressor is keeping air in the system and shock, it's after the car is shut done this occurs. This in itself can cause the compressor to burn out from the constant running, to supply air.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 10:10 PM
  #6  
nanayaw6's Avatar
Super Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 937
Likes: 15
From: Alpharetta Georgia
2006 E55, 2006 saab 93 aero, 2010 glk 4m
OP, although I haven't experienced such a dip in temperature, had an encounter where the temperature dropped by about 20-30 f from the time I parked the car and when I came back to the car discovered it was sitting extremely low. Another forum member confirmed my suspicion that the difference in the density of colder air outside the strut vs that of the less dense(warmer when filled) air in the strut could account for some of this.
Such is seen with tires when the temperature gets cold outside and your tires look like they're almost flat.
Just a theory.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:32 PM
  #7  
AMGPilot's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 28
From: SOCAL
2004 E55
Originally Posted by nanayaw6
Another forum member confirmed my suspicion that the difference in the density of colder air outside the strut vs that of the less dense(warmer when filled) air in the strut could account for some of this.
Such is seen with tires when the temperature gets cold outside and your tires look like they're almost flat.
Just a theory.

At the pressures the system operates at temp delta will not cause the ride height to change more than 1/10th of an inch
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:52 PM
  #8  
nanayaw6's Avatar
Super Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 937
Likes: 15
From: Alpharetta Georgia
2006 E55, 2006 saab 93 aero, 2010 glk 4m
Red face Out of ideas then

Originally Posted by AMGPilot
At the pressures the system operates at temp delta will not cause the ride height to change more than 1/10th of an inch
I wonder what happened with mine then as that was the only time the height changed so much as I'm always keeping a watchful eye on my fender gaps in anticipation of failure. Temps were about 65 when i was driving and dipped to low 20s when I came back. Only exception I can remember from that day.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:33 AM
  #9  
AMGPilot's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 28
From: SOCAL
2004 E55
Originally Posted by nanayaw6
I wonder what happened with mine then as that was the only time the height changed so much as I'm always keeping a watchful eye on my fender gaps in anticipation of failure. Temps were about 65 when i was driving and dipped to low 20s when I came back. Only exception I can remember from that day.
If that was the case ANY car/truck/suv with air suspension would do that and they don't. You most likely seeing the effects of a frozen outflow valve or some other leak in the system
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:48 AM
  #10  
03'55AMG's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,127
Likes: 4
From: Chicagoland
AMG
Mine use to do that too, got a car too low message, waited a few mins, back to normal. this was about 4 years ago and nothing wrong.. but i must admit, when my whole car dropped over the wheels it looked AMAZING! lol
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:49 PM
  #11  
jpohl402's Avatar
Thread Starter
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 2
From: PHX/PIE/OMA ---> Yes, all three
E55 then E63, now back to an E55
^^^
It has been happening for a week now.
You never got yours fixed? I have been too busy to take it in...
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 08:00 PM
  #12  
03'55AMG's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,127
Likes: 4
From: Chicagoland
AMG
no i never even worried, when air gets cold it becomes less dense, and the air becomes easier to compress. and there may even be a valve opening because of it. try parking it in a heated garage or building and see what you get.

EDIT: just read your post about only the left rear tire.. that is not normal, take it to the stealership or any one your comfortable with to look at it.
like AMGPilot said, may be a valve or hose somewhere around the rear

Last edited by 03'55AMG; Jan 17, 2011 at 08:03 PM.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 AM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE