Roseylv

Well, I haven't gotten bored of my CLS55 just yet. What I am bored of is my Mazda 3 daily driver. On top of which, I've never owned a stick so I think it's about time I popped my cherry.

What do you guys think of an old school 2001 Audi S4 wagon?...Perhaps a stage 3 or even stock? They can be had anywhere between 8-13k

BenzoBoi

I absolutely LOVE that car. I had the A6 with the bi-turbo motor in it from the S4 and it was a blast to drive. Not as quick as my 211 now but it was fun at the time .

Only thing I would be worried about is all the lil electrical gremlins that audi's are known for. I got rid of mine right when it had around 50k miles on it and thankfully it ran fine until then. Granted you could find a nice clean one with low miles, it would be a great car to have. Especially when you start modding to around Stage 3 levels!

emoving

I had one back in the day and it was a complete pain in the azz after warranty. Never again for me.

chawkins2001

Let me give you some advice from when I had mine last summer, don't do it, loll. Not for a daily, no sir and I had a stage 2 in a sedan. Spent $2500 in the first 500 miles. The one I bought also had all the maintenance done.

NDF55

If you want an S4 as a dd, go B6 with the V8 I had one with the six speed before my E55 and it was a great car. Not as mod friendly as the b5, but rock solid and sounds beastly with just a simple cat-back. A much better option for a dd than the b5 as far as reliability goes.

shardul

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I agree on the B6 V8 selection

skratch77

Get a e46 m3

Limen

I JUST sold my 2001 Audi S4 Avant stage 3+ to my younger brother. It was my Girlfriends daily driver for a long time. She absoultely loved the thing! We sold it for her 2008 M5 a few weeks ago.

I know everyone says how un-reliable they are, and yes, they can be. But we had nothing but good things to say about our S4. We would just beat the **** out of that car ALL the time, and never had anything really bad happen to it. Although when you go stage 3, most of the expensive parts (turbos) have already been replaced.

For us, it was a great DD.

Roseylv

Thanks for the responses guys. You guys are definitely making me rethink my master plan.
here is B5 stage 3 i'm trying to deal on;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...#ht_841wt_1167

I had a b5 Audi 1.8t back in 2000 and loved it. I guess this would be a big step backwards with respect to reliability issues. But a huge step up in the fun department.

What should I do??? I guess I'll starting researching some S4 on the B6 platform

tscales

What am I missing? You own an E55. Why wouldn't it be your daily driver?

Limen

IMO, the B6 S4 is a great daily driver. That 4.2 V8 is a great motor, but not all that "mod friendly" since you are looking at a stage 3 B5 S4. And I would also say that the B6 S4 is quite a bit more tame, and not as fun as the B5 S4. I felt the B5 was much more "in your face" with its power and somewhat lightweight. I think the B6 feels slower since the power delivery is much more smooth, and the weight of the B6 will also factor in.

So I guess, I have no idea what you should do...Both would be fun daily drivers IMO...

emoving

Wow, with only 138000 miles, modded, beat on, chipping paint, replaced body panels, and accident and a bad CarFax......what could go wrong!

chawkins2001

I think a great daily and fun car would be a E36 or E46 M3.

emoving

E46 for sho!

chawkins2001

Unless of course you want to get stomped by a bolt on 96 cobra

emoving

Bro, your pictures never work! FAIL

kompressede

Interesting to see the comments. We have a 2000 S4 stage 3 right now as a DD when I say a DD it is used everyday (sunny, raining, and snow). Don't get me wrong it was a brand new build six months ago so the usaul maintenance is still required (the body has 100k) for example last night noticed an axle boot is ripped so an axel is getting ordered today.
We had a reputable shop do the build therefore we don't have any issues with the car.
Right now the S4 can take the E55 BUT the 55 is bone stock so once a few mods are done the S4 will be reading the AMG badge.

taurran

I drive an old Toyota truck on a daily basis. Best DD ever.

NDF55

Don't want to threadjack but tell us a little more about this build. What did you have done? rebuild engine, upgrade turbos, what about the trans? I love the Idea of a twin turbo S4 with a six speed as a toy, but would be a little nervice about getting into one with 100k on it. Oh and who did the work?

220S

+1 That car's not a daily driver but a potential daily nightmare.

Buy something worth buying.

And buy stock and do the mods yourself.

Jim's500E

I'd say get the V8 S6 Avant or a V8 allroad on if you want an Audi wagon....much better cars, less maint. About the same prices. The S4 Avants are kinda on the small side (IMO)

They're good/reliable cars with the 2.7Ts if you don't go crazy with the mods. The V8s are even more reliable.

03RSTT

B6 V8
One major problem has been the timing chain idler assm. Those can take out the entire engine.

B5 V6
Lots of expensive items to repair as you go north of 75k. Turbos will almost always go and need to be replaced in pairs by dropping the engine.

For a daily driver I would consider the A4 avant 2.0T and throw some power mods, suspension and wheels on the car to bring the performance up. B6 or B7

J J

While a b4 S4 is a great car, it would be a poor choice for a daily driver from a reliability point of view.

A stage 3 s4 as a fun car and the CLS a daily makes much more sense.

I just got a high milage CLS 500 as my daily and retired my Mcoupe. I couldnt be happier.

Jim's500E

I was talking C5 chassis cars.... agreed on the B6 V8 tho....not great....but def. nice with a 6-speed.

The B5/C5 V6 2.7TT was/is one of Ward's 10 best engines...mine has 170K in the allroad ,no real big problems, original turbos !...change the oil every 5K and do the TB every 80K and they'll last well over 200K easily and w/o breaking the wallet. BUT the allroads air suspension IS troublesome after some years regardless of miles. But the parts to fix have dropped considerably in price. Anyway...just my 2 cents.