Got Tired of cheap door pins
03-21-2011, 08:30 AM
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03-21-2011, 09:38 AM
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So why even ask who his supplier is? If you acknowledge someone can purchase it from a supplier, then why is it so unimaginable that he purchased his titanium from a source like this? Not to mention, you contradict yourself in this paragraph...
Titanium is also used in the medical industry...
Titanium is also used in the medical industry...
03-21-2011, 10:54 AM
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I dont see what the big deal is about where the titanium comes from. It comes from a metals supplier here in the valley. Then my fabricator here in the valley puts it on his lathe and makes them how I want them. It is really that simple. So if the metal supplier buys the metal stock from China I have not idea and really dont give a crap. But the product it self is made here in the U.S.A. So I guess if you want some you can call China and have some made if that is the route you want to go.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
03-21-2011, 11:05 AM
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I dont see what the big deal is about where the titanium comes from. It comes from a metals supplier here in the valley. Then my fabricator here in the valley puts it on his lathe and makes them how I want them. It is really that simple. So if the metal supplier buys the metal stock from China I have not idea and really dont give a crap. But the product it self is made here in the U.S.A. So I guess if you want some you can call China and have some made if that is the route you want to go.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
03-21-2011, 11:12 AM
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I know Ti is in the medical industry. I work around it myself. And? Part of what makes medical Ti even more expensive than the simple working of the materials and the raw material cost is that they are verified to be the grade purchased, since not all Ti is created and blended the same, and much of what is coming out of China is mislabeled as higher grade. Medical grade is very different, and has to be verified before being shipped out for use as implants, or as such things as tools to work around MRI equipment, since an impure tool, flying around, could create lots of headaches.
Geez, some people's kids. It's a topic on door pins. It's just not the complicated. I hope you don't ask for the sheer strength test results. 
03-21-2011, 11:58 AM
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Our plastic golf tees are the downfall of the platform, and must be replaced by 100% Medical Grade Titanium, melted down from Synthes or Stryker mandibular plating...otherwise the entire car might self-destruct!
Any inperfection could mean your life!
03-21-2011, 12:41 PM
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I dont see what the big deal is about where the titanium comes from. It comes from a metals supplier here in the valley. Then my fabricator here in the valley puts it on his lathe and makes them how I want them. It is really that simple. So if the metal supplier buys the metal stock from China I have not idea and really dont give a crap. But the product it self is made here in the U.S.A. So I guess if you want some you can call China and have some made if that is the route you want to go.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
My intent was for me and a friend of mine to have new pins. Not to mass produce them. I did not think people would care that much. But if there is interest I will have my fabricator mass produce them for me. But I will not be sourcing anything from China. I would like to stimulate our own economy.
03-21-2011, 12:42 PM
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I'm just saying I've seen elsewhere, where people come to forums, and claim they are going to be made domestically, then people find out on the back side that they are off the shelf chinese items. Just post pics of them being made, and that's all. It is one of my peeves when I see things being passed off as American made, and on forums, it happens a lot.
03-21-2011, 12:44 PM
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I know Ti is in the medical industry. I work around it myself. And? Part of what makes medical Ti even more expensive than the simple working of the materials and the raw material cost is that they are verified to be the grade purchased, since not all Ti is created and blended the same, and much of what is coming out of China is mislabeled as higher grade. Medical grade is very different, and has to be verified before being shipped out for use as implants, or as such things as tools to work around MRI equipment, since an impure tool, flying around, could create lots of headaches.
03-21-2011, 12:45 PM
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You know he will! The guy must be going through a mid-life crisis and is trying to impress us all... Seriously, who gives a flying f**k!!!
03-21-2011, 12:46 PM
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You must not forget the shear modulus or tensile strength on door pins!
Our plastic golf tees are the downfall of the platform, and must be replaced by 100% Medical Grade Titanium, melted down from Synthes or Stryker mandibular plating...otherwise the entire car might self-destruct!
Any inperfection could mean your life!
Our plastic golf tees are the downfall of the platform, and must be replaced by 100% Medical Grade Titanium, melted down from Synthes or Stryker mandibular plating...otherwise the entire car might self-destruct!
Any inperfection could mean your life!
03-21-2011, 12:48 PM
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I know Ti is in the medical industry. I work around it myself. And? Part of what makes medical Ti even more expensive than the simple working of the materials and the raw material cost is that they are verified to be the grade purchased, since not all Ti is created and blended the same, and much of what is coming out of China is mislabeled as higher grade. Medical grade is very different, and has to be verified before being shipped out for use as implants, or as such things as tools to work around MRI equipment, since an impure tool, flying around, could create lots of headaches.
03-21-2011, 04:06 PM
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No, that's not what I'm talking about. Yes, someone can buy Ti from any supplier. However, Ti is in short supply in the states, apportioned for defense usage. The majority of Ti in the world for consumers comes from China, even if someone can just go down and get some (which is extremely hard to work on top of that) from a local supplier. And in that case, it's quite easy to just simply go to the place where it's coming from, put in an order with them, and then it's shipped across the world to here. Very easy, and much cheaper. I've seen it a ton of times before.
VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation in Yekaterinburg, Russia is the world's largest titanium producer. Boeing and Airbus and the US Defense Dept are supplied by VSMPO-AVISMA. The US quit stockpiling titanium after the Cold War....
Ti is not in "short supply" and "apportioned for defense usage." That's total and complete B.S.
Ti is used in thousands of 'normal' applications. Even house paint has Ti in it. My grandmother's hip joint is made of Ti.
It's the 7th most abundant metal on the planet. The cost comes from producing Ti ore into usable metal via the Kroll process. It's an expensive and lengthy process for making both the usable metal and Ti powder.
03-21-2011, 04:22 PM
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03-21-2011, 04:23 PM
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03-21-2011, 04:27 PM
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fwiw, Australia is the biggest producer in terms of tonnage.
VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation in Yekaterinburg, Russia is the world's largest titanium producer. Boeing and Airbus and the US Defense Dept are supplied by VSMPO-AVISMA. The US quit stockpiling titanium after the Cold War....
Ti is not in "short supply" and "apportioned for defense usage." That's total and complete B.S.
Ti is used in thousands of 'normal' applications. Even house paint has Ti in it. My grandmother's hip joint is made of Ti.
It's the 7th most abundant metal on the planet. The cost comes from producing Ti ore into usable metal via the Kroll process. It's an expensive and lengthy process for making both the usable metal and Ti powder.
VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation in Yekaterinburg, Russia is the world's largest titanium producer. Boeing and Airbus and the US Defense Dept are supplied by VSMPO-AVISMA. The US quit stockpiling titanium after the Cold War....
Ti is not in "short supply" and "apportioned for defense usage." That's total and complete B.S.
Ti is used in thousands of 'normal' applications. Even house paint has Ti in it. My grandmother's hip joint is made of Ti.
It's the 7th most abundant metal on the planet. The cost comes from producing Ti ore into usable metal via the Kroll process. It's an expensive and lengthy process for making both the usable metal and Ti powder.
It's a shame that someone is creative and makes their own door pins and then posts pictures of them and then some jagoff calls the titanium (of all things) into question! The guy wasn't even offering to sell them at first...
03-21-2011, 04:48 PM
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03-21-2011, 05:00 PM
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sknight; Really??? A member shows off his coolness that he and a buddy made and you say, "no you didn't" Where did you get the titanium? Well you will just source them from China and lie about where they are made and how you have seen this happen on other forums. Freaking pathetic!
The funny thing for me is watching the rest of the members school sknight on titanium. 220S laid it down on him with the Kroll Press.
Thanks for the laughs guys.
The funny thing for me is watching the rest of the members school sknight on titanium. 220S laid it down on him with the Kroll Press.
Thanks for the laughs guys.
