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I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying that "bargain" (your word) isn't necessarily bad.Originally Posted by EcruisinUSA
So you're saying buy the less expensive Zune instead of the iPod? I'll tell you, I've got a drawer full of iDevices (pads, pods and phones) and I'll keep buying them. Ever look into the value decline of non-Apple devices? Anyway, we're getting off topic.
As for my own example, in my home you'll find a newer Mac, 3 iPods (maybe 4, if you can find my green one that went AWOL), 2 Android phones, a Win Vista laptop, a Win XP laptop, a Win7 laptop, and a Linux netbook. Do I, personally, think that spending $2000 on a water pump that is only marginally (if at all) better than a CM30 that retails for less than 1/10th of that is a bad decision? ABSOLUTELY! - but that's not a dig on the gold-plated pump or the people that buy it any more than saying "I prefer my Linux netbook to my Mac" is a dig on Macs or a dig on the people that buy them. It's a philosophy - just like I have a Honda scooter rather than a Vespa, because even though it costs more than the Vespa and is seen by many as a "copy", Hondas are still (in my experience) considerably more reliable and solid than Vespas. I traded my Buell for a Kawasaki because I didn't want to sop up oil every time I parked my bike, too - but most Harley guys don't have a problem with that.
I guess what I'm saying is: say what you have to say. Don't worry about something being a "dig" or whatever, because the people who take other people's purchasing decisions personally aren't worth your consideration.
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Pretty please? Or at least with the stock H/E in series with something else? Originally Posted by BenzoDoc
Is there any way you can test yours against the other pumps on a stock heat exchanger?
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These aren't electronics, but pretty simple pumps. I understand your point, but the pump in this application, is like a transistor on your device example. If it works, and performs well, who cares what name or price is on it. If it were mounted on top of the engine for all to see, glistening in polished metal, then maybe it would matter to some. Not me, however.Originally Posted by EcruisinUSA
So you're saying buy the less expensive Zune instead of the iPod? I'll tell you, I've got a drawer full of iDevices (pads, pods and phones) and I'll keep buying them. Ever look into the value decline of non-Apple devices? Anyway, we're getting off topic.
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I generally agree with your comment.Originally Posted by wsybert
These aren't electronics, but pretty simple pumps. I understand your point, but the pump in this application, is like a transistor on your device example. If it works, and performs well, who cares what name or price is on it. If it were mounted on top of the engine for all to see, glistening in polished metal, then maybe it would matter to some. Not me, however.
My only concern is that the pump in question is TRULY the same as the $2000 version in terms of its materials and specifications.
Anyone who deals with manufacturing processes regularly knows that for any given performance attribute that you test for at the factory, you'll get a "distribution" of values around your target point.....in this case it might be flow, or tolerances of the impeller to case, bearing runout or whatever. Sometimes the product "outperforms" the control limit, (ie. you get a better product than you hoped for), but in some cases it doesn't meet the minimum spec and you get an inferior product.
Sometimes these deficiencies can be remedied at the factory, but depending on the re-work costs it is sometimes cheaper to just sell them under a different part number at a lower price into the market. It happens all the time..... usually a large OEM customer will define the spec that they require to their supplier to insure that they will get "cream of the crop" product. Everything else that doesn't meet spec gets sold off though other sales channels but often looks VERY close to the "OEM design" product...but at a seductively lower cost.
I'm hopeful, but cautiously skeptical as well.....
Subscribed for test results!
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