berti_00

this is brilliant...am going to order 2 of those fans the drivers side

berti_00

if anyone wants to order here is the same exact fan that TimeToy used and it seems to be cheaper too $9.50 a piece


just placed an order for 2pc came to a total of $26 flat shipped

http://www.cwc-group.com/efc0812dbf00.html

RJC

So did anyone try the fans in the bottom cushion? Also try setting your vents to bi-level which will get airconditiong to the floor then picked up by the fans now blowing in the right direction (toward the body).

Anyone from South FL try this mod yet?

I would need to do this for the new SL I have coming in and my delaership is making this fan exchange sound overly complicated.

Thanks

RJC

Thanks for the link, can't wait to see how this turns out for you, are you doing the bottom or back?

RJC

Found this http://www.ebmpapst.fr/media/404/4_s...lation_usa.pdf

Toadster

Papst cooling fans

RJC

Please tell me more about these things.


Thnx

OCKlasse

Is that not just the OEM fan manufacturer?

RJC

Don't know, I emailed them two days ago but no reply so far. Need a place in S Fl to do this mod for me; thinking Renntech, will call today.

timeToy

The stock fan, is a Papst, PBT-GF20-FR size is 60x60x10mm, it is very weak as we all know. I found quite some time looking for a best replacement fan, ie. size that fit (from 60mm to 80mm) and significantly more airflow, while noise was not a concern. I found the Delta EFC0812DB-F00 to be a good replacement. Berti_00 found a great place to get them for even cheaper.

RJC: This is DIY job if you have a dremel and a box cutter.

GregMB

Thanks Berti! Just ordered 5 fans.....$59.50 total.

I spoke with a Mercedes tech friend of mine, and he seems to recall that the seat bottom can be removed individually without pulling the entire seat out of the car... supposedly only held in place with a couple of bolts. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm not worried about a few rivets in my way on the lower cushion, I'll drill those out if necessary to gain access. If my luck holds, I'm going to replace all 5 fans in the driver's seat (3 in lower cushion, 2 in seatback) and make my assessment.


-G

RJC

Thanks. How about for the seat bottom as that's where I need the cooling? Do you know or would you be kind enough to find out if the 13SL has the same number of fans and their size? I have had difficulty finding out this info.
Have you tried setting your ac to bi-level to see if the new fans pick up the cold air going to the floor and if so is the seat bottom getting cold?

Thanks

RJC

Good info about the bottom cushion; do we have any MB techs still around here that can confirm some things for us?

Thanks

timeToy

Dude, I just realized you are talking about a 2013 SL, maybe you should wait to see how the seats perform before hacking them, with the air-scarf feature and so on, the seats are bound to be completely different, and, I'm sure, performing much better.

RJC

The seats dont blow cold or strongly at all we tried them at the dealership and they appear to be the same as the previous design drawing air down through the cushion vs up into it etc. Did you do the bottom cushions too?

timeToy

I have not done the bottom. But here is some info if you have missed it previously in the thread.

RJC

Thanks. Anyway to get this info/pic for the new R231?

black06c230

How many fans are needed for each seat?

RJC

I think 3 for the bottom cushion and 2 for the back rest

danlnyc

lets meet up and do this mod lol

berti_00

can't wait to do mine..

RJC

Berti, when you do yours can I tempt you to bring your car down to west palm and meet at Renntech? I'm trying to get them to do this mod on my new SL. I'll pick up the tab for your fuel.

berti_00

yah i can probably swing down

RJC

Sweet, very much appreciated; maybe we can set up a meet?

OCKlasse

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