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Old 06-10-2011, 09:50 AM
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New V8TT (non-AMG) Tests

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/specs.html

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...18dedf6b20.pdf

Even the non-AMG V8TT's are running pretty strong.

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I hope they make a c46 4mattic with this engine and throw the 5.5 TT in the c63 but that will never happen since the numbers are to close to the AMG.
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Sounds almost too good to be true. Good work. Thanks for posting.
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my wife really likes the W212 and I do too, but im holding off until next year for the new engine.

As much as we need a sedan... the E550 coupe with the 4.6TT would be a sweet ride. According to the MB website is over 200lbs lighter than the sedan.


(rounded numbers)
CLS550 4180lbs
E550 4050+/- lbs
E550 coupe 3775 lbs

btw: 4 matic would be a nice option too.. add some weight, but never worry about traction off the line.

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I can't wait my moms about to get the 2012 CLS550!! MBUSA claimed it would only do 0-60 in 5.1 seconds but 4.2 is just astonishing!!
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This is why Benz depreciation rocks!! I am gonna snag a 550 for fun once the prices drop and just mod the crap out of it!! Gotta be 700 in there somewhere!!
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This is why Benz depreciation rocks!! I am gonna snag a 550 for fun once the prices drop and just mod the crap out of it!! Gotta be 700 in there somewhere!!
haha i was just thinking the same thing!!!

and the AWD makes for putting all the power down a much easier task! if i could change only one thing about my e55 it would be to have it come from the factory with AWD... easily 0-60mph in 4 sec stock if it had it
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oh man..... this makes my car looks slow now. In near 1 year every new Mercedes V8 has the same performance or better than my E55K sad...... is this mean my E55 will worth like shiit in 3 years ?!
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oh man..... this makes my car looks slow now. In near 1 year every new Mercedes V8 has the same performance or better than my E55K sad...... is this mean my E55 will worth like shiit in 3 years ?!
Not yet...can still out-accelerate all except the new AMGs...but they're getting closer...!
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Yep, will be fun when Renntech tunes one to 500+ hp.
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I don't like this
wtf are they thinking making these normal non AMG cars performance "close" to real AMG ones.
There should be a large gap IMO
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To be frank, I'm not an AWD fan. Prefer the simplicity of RWD.Also makes for a lighter car. Of course it will be a little hairier to drive but I can live with that. This is why I've always prefered the 911 GT2 to the turbo. Anyway, still can't see a stock 550tt taking a stock 55 on the derestricted autobahn.
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I don't like this
wtf are they thinking making these normal non AMG cars performance "close" to real AMG ones.
There should be a large gap IMO
I think this is no different than what is happening at other specialized performance divisions. Take the M Division of BMW. An E46 M3 ('01-'06) is about even with an E92 335i coupe in a straight line. The E60 550i is just about as fast as the E39 M5.

The "real AMGs" will likely test much faster than their non-AMG brethern. I wouldn't be surprised to see the new E63/CLS63 w/PP crack an 11.7 1/4m in the right temps...on the right track surface. I think most magazines will test them in the around 12.0s 1/4m...which is .8s faster than the CLS550. The previous CLS550 was a low 13s 1/4m car...and old CLS63 was a mid-12s car. So the progress is somewhat proportional.

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Wonder if the new 63tt will come all AWD or whether there will be a RWD option, anyone know?
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Very impressive #'s for a non amg car. Technology really has improved since the E55.....
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Maybe it's time to start saving for the 63tt, say 2013, by which time the initial bugs would have been largely sorted...
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Wonder how the increases in power affect the 65 amgs? Is a new engine due in the apparently all-new 2012 CL65?
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Or just get a PDK Turbo with a tune and call it a day
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Or just get a PDK Turbo with a tune and call it a day
now we talking...
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OE Tuning already got their hands on a CLS550 and here is the post from the other forum:

Originally Posted by SALES@OETUNING
Here is the ECU tuning results for the all new Mercedes Benz CLS550 (W218). This brand new model boasts a twin-turbocharged 4.6-liter V8 power plant, putting out 402 horsepower and 443 lb.-ft. of torque to the flywheel. This particular vehicle came in featuring the “Launch Edition” package, complete with “Edition 1″ interior, no after-market modifications, running CA91 pump gasoline. During testing on our in-house 4×4 Dyno Dynamics dyno, the gains seen to the wheel were: +65wTq@4400rpm & +40wHp@5100rpm (depicted in the dynograph attached). Boost levels were increased along with torque management, to achieve said figures.
This same power plant can also be found in current & future S550, CL550, E550, SL550 US models. This vehicle is also known as the CLS500 4.6L Bi-Turbo in other parts of the world.
Enjoy.....

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OE Tuning already got their hands on a CLS550 and here is the post from the other forum:

Very nice gains.... I can't wait to see what Jeremy does with a 63 TT car. Double the gains would be a great start
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Very nice gains.... I can't wait to see what Jeremy does with a 63 TT car. Double the gains would be a great start
i thought mb wasnt going to make the 6.3L TT ? or do you mean the 5.5L TT that they are putting in the C63 black series?
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i thought mb wasnt going to make the 6.3L TT ? or do you mean the 5.5L TT that they are putting in the C63 black series?
MBForever was just talking about the W212 AMG model whick keeps the E63 moniker. It is a 5.5TT but is called the E63 (lame I know)
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Originally Posted by Vic55
MBForever was just talking about the W212 AMG model whick keeps the E63 moniker. It is a 5.5TT but is called the E63 (lame I know)
ah ok i thought that might be it.... still learning about all the MB talk and monikers... spent so long with audis now i feel like i am going back to school to learn a new language lol
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i thought mb wasnt going to make the 6.3L TT ? or do you mean the 5.5L TT that they are putting in the C63 black series?
Originally Posted by Vic55
MBForever was just talking about the W212 AMG model whick keeps the E63 moniker. It is a 5.5TT but is called the E63 (lame I know)
Vic is correct. I never said 6.3 liter TT.... I was just referring to the new TT models which will keep the 63 name.

I'm hoping that if 40 whp gains from tune only are possible on the 4.7L TT engine then double those gains from tune only would be possible from a 5.5L TT


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