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Has no-one tried to turbocharge an E55?

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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Has no-one tried to turbocharge an E55?

There is plenty of room to do so and I believe it's the ticket to having 9 second E55's. I guess doing 10's is plenty for 99.99999% of all people but not one person has cared to go further ( with the exception on the EV12 )?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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running 10psi on 2 gt30r's would make 600whp
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Great idea...someone should donate their car to UGR and tell them to work their magic...

They did it on a GT40 so it shouldn't be too hard for them to do it on ours right?

Although I'm pretty sure that they won't do it because there won't be too much of a market for the kit.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by skratch77
running 10psi on 2 gt30r's would make 600whp
Using a compressor map calculator I estimated that at 18psi or so you can get 700whp out of two T3/T4's 57 trims or two GT3076R's if you want something more modern.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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So is 600whp the limit for the 55k with boost only from the supercharger? I would have thought a 5.4 ltr V8 could be tuned to more considering its size and the fact that there have been 700+hp SLRs.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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This was discussed about 5yrs ago if you do a search under twin turbocharge our 55's you will find the thread that i started back then.

Here ya go, man that thread brings back memories

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...in+turbocharge

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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
This was discussed about 5yrs ago if you do a search under twin turbocharge our 55's you will find the thread that i started back then.

Here ya go, man that thread brings back memories

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...in+turbocharge
I read most of that but it just died off.

I think no a days the ecu tune could be easily done by Eurocharged and while VRUS said he'd use two GT25R's ( which are way too small ) I think two GT30R's would make for quick spool and HUGE power.

No parasitic loss from the SC + more efficient compressors = more power at the same boost levels and without fueling modifications. I'm sure 600+whp would be possible even on the stock fueling system.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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ya its definately possible, and I almost did it just ran outta time etc. I would have done Gt30s as well. You would have to go with the TTM fuel kit, and the tuning is not fun but possible.

Our crossfire that we swapped the sc for and did a turbo setup is crazy strong.
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It's not like I've had this car for a long time, but is there even room in the bay for that type of packaging? That and the fact you'd have to basically engineer your own manifolds and start re-routing piping all over the place
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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It's not like I've had this car for a long time, but is there even room in the bay for that type of packaging? That and the fact you'd have to basically engineer your own manifolds and start re-routing piping all over the place
I come from an Infiniti G35. The engine bay space in the G35/350Z is nearly non existent and they have plenty of turbo kits. The engine bay space in the E55 is actually very abundant for having such a large engine. I found it quite easy to swap my headers on. A turbo kit would fit with ease. I just wish I had the money at this moment to do so, I'd do it in a heart beat.
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anyone willing to commision this project? i could donate or they could use my car.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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just wait for the tte63 to come out,lets hope those manifolds and turbos bolt right up tou our blocks.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by unagi1
It's not like I've had this car for a long time, but is there even room in the bay for that type of packaging? That and the fact you'd have to basically engineer your own manifolds and start re-routing piping all over the place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BKO4P_gzY

you were saying?

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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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I know of someone that's getting ready to do GT35's rear mount on a 55K car that's already worked over and running meth. Not sure how much the owner want's out there, so until it becomes public, I can't say too much. I don't know much about it anyway, just that it's close to happening.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Haha, that's a busy engine bay! Very nice

Though, that's a single monster turbo set up
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
I come from an Infiniti G35. The engine bay space in the G35/350Z is nearly non existent and they have plenty of turbo kits. The engine bay space in the E55 is actually very abundant for having such a large engine. I found it quite easy to swap my headers on. A turbo kit would fit with ease. I just wish I had the money at this moment to do so, I'd do it in a heart beat.
Having been through projects on my mr2 as well as the Ford 5-liter, have always had plenty of room in the engine bay for those type of upgrades -- so that's the first thing I noticed.

What are your thoughts on particulars (internal/external WG, A2W vs. AA, stock / custom intake / TB, injectors / FP) for the E55? I'm curious to see how you guys would approach it on this motor as compared to a 4-banger or pushrod V8
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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This was gonna be my Piece de resistance mod until the great recession/mini depression. Trunk mount turb (SMALL) plumbed up to plug right into the TB inlet.

With the EC massive injectors, it seemed so perfect. Sigh...looks like its up to some other baller to make happen.

Godspeed to whoever goes for it.







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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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you also save on the S/C parasitic losses ... app on an SLR its over 80hp at max power.... prob even more for some of us with bigger pulleys...
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Alright I might as well say it..LOL

We are also doing a TT set up on a 55 motor, but its not in an E55 chasis. It will be in a 500E. My tech bought the donor car and will commence the project pretty soon. Once it's been put together I will start a thread with pictures. It is not impossible (where have I heard that before..), If him and Marcin & Supy got the EV12 to run I sure as heck believe it!!! .
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Originally Posted by GT-ER
I come from an Infiniti G35. The engine bay space in the G35/350Z is nearly non existent and they have plenty of turbo kits. The engine bay space in the E55 is actually very abundant for having such a large engine. I found it quite easy to swap my headers on. A turbo kit would fit with ease. I just wish I had the money at this moment to do so, I'd do it in a heart beat.
Not to stray too far off topic but I had a stock G35 to try race me on the freeway last week. The guy must have been a little off. He was gone in 6, not 60 seconds
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Originally Posted by shardul
anyone willing to commision this project? i could donate or they could use my car.

Hehe, if anyone it's you and the Texas crew. I have a NA intake manifold if you want .

I would

Ditch the SC
NA intake manifold
Twin GT3076 with internal WG (just for simplicity)
Front mount IC
meth/water injection as safety
And pray the drivetrain will hold the power.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by unagi1
Having been through projects on my mr2 as well as the Ford 5-liter, have always had plenty of room in the engine bay for those type of upgrades -- so that's the first thing I noticed.

What are your thoughts on particulars (internal/external WG, A2W vs. AA, stock / custom intake / TB, injectors / FP) for the E55? I'm curious to see how you guys would approach it on this motor as compared to a 4-banger or pushrod V8
I would run internal wastegates for simplicity, I would stick to the A2W just because we already have it and it would cut cost and make the install easier, use a N/A intake manifold and add larger injectors. Heck, the OEM exhaust manifolds would work great, just cut the flange and install a T25 flanges ( T25 housings are more compact, have internal wastegates and twin GT3071R's will pump out 700whp with EASE ). Or you can model an exhaust manifold after an oem one to make the construction heavier duty. It'll work great.

Originally Posted by stevebez
you also save on the S/C parasitic losses ... app on an SLR its over 80hp at max power.... prob even more for some of us with bigger pulleys...
Yup...big time.

Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
Alright I might as well say it..LOL

We are also doing a TT set up on a 55 motor, but its not in an E55 chasis. It will be in a 500E. My tech bought the donor car and will commence the project pretty soon. Once it's been put together I will start a thread with pictures. It is not impossible (where have I heard that before..), If him and Marcin & Supy got the EV12 to run I sure as heck believe it!!! .
Yay!!! Cat's out of the bag! LOL.

Originally Posted by Norcal John
Not to stray too far off topic but I had a stock G35 to try race me on the freeway last week. The guy must have been a little off. He was gone in 6, not 60 seconds
Yeah, I ended up hating my G35. Worst car even to work on and the money you spent would give you little in return. I spent twice what I've spent on my E55 and never touched 500whp before the engine blew.

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Hehe, if anyone it's you and the Texas crew. I have a NA intake manifold if you want .

I would

Ditch the SC
NA intake manifold
Twin GT3076 with internal WG (just for simplicity)
Front mount IC
meth/water injection as safety
And pray the drivetrain will hold the power.
A GT3071R's map would be PERFECT for 700whp and offer slightly less lag. The powertrain should also hold more then they do now due to boost coming on much softer than a S/C + Nitrous setup. It's should be beatiful!

If you want to save about $800-$1000 you can go with twin T3/T4's 50 trim or 57 trims and their maps are also perfect for this setup and are FAR cheaper per turbo....they'll just have slightly more lag.

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I know someone did the Turbo kit with W210 E55. So why not just buy a W210 which is really cheap for the project. The W210 engine bay looks pretty spacious to me...
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Originally Posted by CharlyE500
I know someone did the Turbo kit with W210 E55. So why not just buy a W210 which is really cheap for the project. The W210 engine bay looks pretty spacious to me...
info please
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlyE500
I know someone did the Turbo kit with W210 E55. So why not just buy a W210 which is really cheap for the project. The W210 engine bay looks pretty spacious to me...
We want a kit of the W211, not change cars.
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