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Old 09-23-2011, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Alps
Brabus 786 does have a beast, we done a o-60 run a few weeks back and the results were as follows

Alps - 4.43
Lopes - 4.30
Brabus786 4.19

that wagon is a pure beast!

The car was running around 520 rwhp when i got the 4.10 on the 0-60 mph runs
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The numbers are amazing..... But I'm perplexed.

I've seen a lot of guys throwing a lot more mods than you show there (cams, large TBs, larger injectors, and a bunch of minor small "tweaks") just to break 500RWHP.

Is the 190mm pulley really that much of a game changer? WOW!


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Originally Posted by GregMB
The numbers are amazing..... But I'm perplexed.

I've seen a lot of guys throwing a lot more mods than you show there (cams, large TBs, larger injectors, and a bunch of minor small "tweaks") just to break 500RWHP.

Is the 190mm pulley really that much of a game changer? WOW!


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Well i have to say the 190mm is is big pulley it also causes a lot of heat aswell. We ran the car a few times on the dyno but the heat did not let us do as many as we wanted. But i can also understand that every dyno out will give a differnt reading then others. But i have always used this same dyno everytime to do my mods and testing, This map may not be the safest map out there but i dont care as i am trying to push the car to its limits and if the engine blows then let it be : ) I have a got a spare engine and box as i am a mercedes breaker : )

Also i am looking forwards to trying the 200mm Pulley

But next stage is to put my Eurocharged injectors in first just incase i get any fuel problems.

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just for info the following dyno was used

www.dynocom.net AWD

Anyone know anything info about this dyno that they would like to share?
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Never seen or even heard of one of those brand dynos. Dynojet, Mustang, Dynomite, Dyno Dynamics, Dynapack and Maha are all I know of.
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Originally Posted by GregMB
The numbers are amazing..... But I'm perplexed.

I've seen a lot of guys throwing a lot more mods than you show there (cams, large TBs, larger injectors, and a bunch of minor small "tweaks") just to break 500RWHP.

Is the 190mm pulley really that much of a game changer? WOW!


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c'mon guys...we've been through this for how many years now!?!

we can't compare his dyno numbers to anything we've seen before. not only was it not on a local dyno that we can compare other known e55's to but it wasn't even on a brand of dyno that we've ever heard of. track numbers will be the only way to tell the real story...
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Originally Posted by Alps
Brabus 786 does have a beast, we done a o-60 run a few weeks back and the results were as follows

Alps - 4.43
Lopes - 4.30
Brabus786 4.19

that wagon is a pure beast!
are those numbers good? i've never measured 0-60mph and obviously traction is critical, but i'd expect a 10 second 1/4mile car to be able to run sub 3's in perfect conditions.
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I am just trying to figure out how Eurocharged was willing to tune a car with a 190mm pulley and stock injectors and how said car is running (according to this dyno) close to 600whp on stock injectors while others are blowing up engines at closer to 500 on stock injectors from them running at 100% duty.
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Hey, I'm the FNG around here...

I was expecting an immediate firestorm of elder-statesman yelling "BS!" over these numbers.... but the initial responses were all pretty muted.

Struck me as odd.


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I am just trying to figure out how Eurocharged was willing to tune a car with a 190mm pulley and stock injectors and how said car is running (according to this dyno) close to 600whp on stock injectors while others are blowing up engines at closer to 500 on stock injectors from them running at 100% duty.
i achieved 578rwhp/640tq on dynocomp's dyno dynamics machine on stock injectors so it is possible...i'm not sure if it's possible with only those mods but it is possible on stock injectors. again, he's on a dyno that we can't compare anything to so the final hp numbers don't really matter...
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hey

guys like i said all dyno are differnt so i will be running the 1/4 mile on the 2nd October so let just all leave it to the track numbers?????

And 4.19 0-60 mph was done before this map the power then was 539 Rwhp

I am not on here to show off or argue with anyone i am here to show my PERSONAL finding here in the UK.

Also I am a Dealer for EuroCharged in the UK thats why jerry has helped me to map the car,
You all must understand that the map on this car is not a safe map and is at my own risk !

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLifi4io0l0

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XLM_fKwXVM

and a old dyno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1C1SWdKNnc

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Is this on pump gas or race gas? And yes, you better run 10's in the 1/4 mile!!
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Originally Posted by BRABUS786
Hey

The car has the following mods

190 mm. Pulley
Eurocharged LT headers
3 inch custom exhausts with x pipe
Rear eisenmann Back boxes
Cm 30
EC Heat Exchanger

Custom map by Eurocharged and viezu

582.2 rwhp
653 Rwtq

Was surprised to get these figures

Acid

OMG! Sick mate, that makes more power than mine!
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
are those numbers good? i've never measured 0-60mph and obviously traction is critical, but i'd expect a 10 second 1/4mile car to be able to run sub 3's in perfect conditions.


No. A stock 55 with drag radials would have probably kill all our times. I was on a 265" PS2 alps was on a 275" PS2 (stock car) and Acid was on a 285" PZero with two more wheel/and tyres in the boot. LOL

We all going 1/4 mile track next weekend this will give us a better indication of what are cars are putting out..
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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
Is this on pump gas or race gas? And yes, you better run 10's in the 1/4 mile!!

It's running on shell 97 pump

I hope it will run it will run in the 10s but I will not hold my breath.

Please remember his is a heavier car then the saloon , the goal is to be the first wagon to do it in the 10s. But I have more mods to do yet before I will get to my target

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Originally Posted by Lopes80
No. A stock 55 with drag radials would have probably kill all our times. I was on a 265" PS2 alps was on a 275" PS2 (stock car) and Acid was on a 285" PZero with two more wheel/and tyres in the boot. LOL

We all going 1/4 mile track next weekend this will give us a better indication of what are cars are putting out..
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Paul hope ur good

I didn't expect to get the figures i did to be honest , be the drag strip will give us a overall answer

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Paul hope ur good

I didn't expect to get the figures i did to be honest , be the drag strip will give us a overall answer

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Im good my friend, looks like you been putting in more hard work mate, well done. As for me, if my car traps 125+ I will be happy!
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Originally Posted by urbamworm
I am just trying to figure out how Eurocharged was willing to tune a car with a 190mm pulley and stock injectors and how said car is running (according to this dyno) close to 600whp on stock injectors while others are blowing up engines at closer to 500 on stock injectors from them running at 100% duty.
people have been at 500whp ages ago, and ran fine with out injectors. It's the tune that makes the difference.

The numbers do seem very high considering no tb or airbox mods, but as people have already mentioned its a different dyno

gl to the owner and all the best on his runs
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Originally Posted by Zod
people have been at 500whp ages ago, and ran fine with out injectors. It's the tune that makes the difference.

The numbers do seem very high considering no tb or airbox mods, but as people have already mentioned its a different dyno

gl to the owner and all the best on his runs

Thanks for the Luck I have k&n filters aswell I forgot to mention
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We have this same dyno here in Lebanon, this dyno read whp higher then those in USA, with this dyno you can take the real hp from the Max eng Power which is crank hp (down the graph) 640 hp, so if you want a USA read devide by 18% loss = 640*0.82 = 525 whp, this is the real numbers you have, this dyno take the losses as 10% (582*1.1=640bhp).
i have a c32 with 180mm pulley, LT headers, 80mm tb, cooling, ...
attached is my dyno sheet on the same dyno(Dynocom), i have 488 bhp std, which is i think real, but not 443 whp which is so high, the real whp is 488*0.82= 400 whp, and i have another graph converted to sae which equal to 387 whp (472 crank).
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Originally Posted by Robert AMG
We have this same dyno here in Lebanon, this dyno read whp higher then those in USA, with this dyno you can take the real hp from the Max eng Power which is crank hp (down the graph) 640 hp, so if you want a USA read devide by 18% loss = 640*0.82 = 525 whp, this is the real numbers you have, this dyno take the losses as 10% (582*1.1=640bhp).
i have a c32 with 180mm pulley, LT headers, 80mm tb, cooling, ...
attached is my dyno sheet on the same dyno(Dynocom), i have 488 bhp std, which is i think real, but not 443 whp which is so high, the real whp is 488*0.82= 400 whp, and i have another graph converted to sae which equal to 387 whp (472 crank).
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Hey Robert

Thanks for the info , I'm happy that someone else has heard of this dyno !
What I am going to do is get another dyno done from a different tuner and I can then report back to you all

like I said earlier I did not expect them figures but around 550 565 rwhp

Thanks Acid
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HEY

Guys right i done the 1/4 mile run today !! On one of the hotest days in the UK this year!!!!

11.5 : )

So do these figures sound right ? It is a Wagon

582.2 rwhp
653 Rwtq

Or does it sound like Bull ?

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Originally Posted by BRABUS786
HEY

Guys right i done the 1/4 mile run today !! On one of the hotest days in the UK this year!!!!

11.5 : )

So do these figures sound right ? It is a Wagon

582.2 rwhp
653 Rwtq

Or does it sound like Bull ?

Acid
What was your MPH?


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