Renntech gets 569 Wheel 624 Trq with Tune Only on the new TT???
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Hah you just called me a kid. Nice baller swag style car I see there and from your posts, I bet you are below 25 years old. Am I right? And I gave you a laugh because you know I'm right. Just admit it. 1/4 mile ain't mean nothing. Want an ultimate 1/4 mile dragster?
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Hah you just called me a kid. Nice baller swag style car I see there and from your posts, I bet you are below 25 years old. Am I right? And I gave you a laugh because you know I'm right. Just admit it. 1/4 mile ain't mean nothing. Want an ultimate 1/4 mile dragster?
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Even though you're severly misguided you certainly added some much needed levity to this thread
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So a 6.0 litre V12 older technology vs. 5.4 litre V8 new technology.
Of course, the older 5 speed tranny is stronger than the new 7 speed tranny.
Of course, the older 5 speed tranny is stronger than the new 7 speed tranny.
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Hah you just called me a kid. Nice baller swag style car I see there and from your posts, I bet you are below 25 years old. Am I right? And I gave you a laugh because you know I'm right. Just admit it. 1/4 mile ain't mean nothing. Want an ultimate 1/4 mile dragster?
TUNED Nissan GTR all the way
TUNED Nissan GTR all the way
Talking like that to The Rick or long term members of this board is pure ignorance. The guy has done more for this community, especially the V12TT platform than you can obviously comprehend. Him and the speeddriven crew have done some amazing work to his cars performance. Please be my guest, go find out the hard way, he's only a stones throw away from Mehico...
Please search and get your **** straight.
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The new dual clutch tranny no doubt improving the drivetrain loss allot. Makes rwhp ccomparisons v 55K's much more interesting.
Only question now is how strong is this dual clutch tranny?
Only question now is how strong is this dual clutch tranny?
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As for how strong it is...I have no idea.
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some facts:
63TT non PP = 47x rwhp
63TT with PP = 53x rwhp
other facts:
MB says 63TT non PP = 525hp crank
MB says 63TT with PP = 525 + 32 = 557hp crank
so to conclude who is saying 96rwhp is too much for a tune.
first point, Renntech had the non PP.
second point, brabus made 40rwhp more on the PP by a tune only.
so to conclude = powers are true on pump gas. and these cars do rock .
mine has PP and it is stock. it is faster than a stock 65, faster than my E55k (505RWHP on mustang).
when you guys own 1 of these 63TT, you will know that it is true. ^_^
63TT non PP = 47x rwhp
63TT with PP = 53x rwhp
other facts:
MB says 63TT non PP = 525hp crank
MB says 63TT with PP = 525 + 32 = 557hp crank
so to conclude who is saying 96rwhp is too much for a tune.
first point, Renntech had the non PP.
second point, brabus made 40rwhp more on the PP by a tune only.
so to conclude = powers are true on pump gas. and these cars do rock .
mine has PP and it is stock. it is faster than a stock 65, faster than my E55k (505RWHP on mustang).
when you guys own 1 of these 63TT, you will know that it is true. ^_^
FYI- I just got a CLS63TT on Friday--- with the PP and the car is amazing. I had a W215 CL65 which had about 550hp (tuned) at the wheels and about 4800 lbs curb weight and while Ill never be able to run them side by side I feel that the CLSTT would take it in a roll. Drag racing and rolling races are definitely a different beast (as mentioned) and the CLS with its more efficient 7 speed MCT tranny vs. the old 5 speed slushy and the weight variance plays a big part. Oh and by the way, this car can handle with springs up front and the PP AMG extra stiff shocks as well. The steering is so much better than in the past (my W211 E55 and the CL65) as well. Of course Im comparing a 2012 vs a 2005 but since Ive had both I thought Id mention it. 0-100 in Road and Track (sorry about the mag quote) yielded a 8.3 second measurement... not bad.
Once I get about 1k miles on it, Im gonna get a tune to push the car past 600 hp.
And I can finally check my text messages on the Nav screen--- this is the real reason why I bought the car .... LOL
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Someone needs english classes.
High speed this and high speed that. Spoken like a true n00b highschooler M-fanboy that spends too much time on M5Board's youtube channel. In the real world, most races are won under 120mph which is quarter-mile territory.
High speed this and high speed that. Spoken like a true n00b highschooler M-fanboy that spends too much time on M5Board's youtube channel. In the real world, most races are won under 120mph which is quarter-mile territory.
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Really? Fact on a Pan TT S? Kill? Show it. What speeds from and to? BMW told you? Pretty bold statements for a car not even out yet.
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Shizz, I can't find where I saw this, but I think the MCT is rated about 300lb/ft higher than torque converter...It was close to 1,000 and somewhere around 800-850 hp...
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And Ricker, I apologize for coming so strong and ignorant. Your posts just seemed to me like the young high school jock type kid who comes off as a douchebag.
Seriously, I apologize. I didn't exactly realize what big things you do for the community and your tuning experiments. My bad buddy.
Cahil, I just apologized. No need to be a douche.
And yes, rolling races and 1/4 miles are totally different. I still stand to my opinion that rolling races are better for showing which car is truely faster. To each to their own.
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Thanks buddy! appreciate the kind words (lots a newbs seem to be very aggressive in opinions these days
) funny how I got an apology that just added more insults lol douchebag this/that ps I wish I was 25 again
I only bold what I agree with. Which is the only reason I sold my AMG. And I hate drag racing...
Talking like that to The Rick or long term members of this board is pure ignorance. The guy has done more for this community, especially the V12TT platform than you can obviously comprehend. Him and the speeddriven crew have done some amazing work to his cars performance. Please be my guest, go find out the hard way, he's only a stones throw away from Mehico...
Please search and get your **** straight.
Talking like that to The Rick or long term members of this board is pure ignorance. The guy has done more for this community, especially the V12TT platform than you can obviously comprehend. Him and the speeddriven crew have done some amazing work to his cars performance. Please be my guest, go find out the hard way, he's only a stones throw away from Mehico...
Please search and get your **** straight.
) funny how I got an apology that just added more insults lol douchebag this/that ps I wish I was 25 again
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At least I know something. Better than nothing.
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Not exactly an insult. I guess everybody is different in interpretation. Just because I'm new here doesn't mean I'm not part of other boards/forums and don't know my stuff. I'm just not as educated on everything MB AMG and MB that.
At least I know something. Better than nothing.
At least I know something. Better than nothing.
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This comes as no surprise...
Ive been telling my friends that MB's claimed numbers are probably very conservative. No different then 469hp claimed by MB for the E55. We all know it's 500hp.
I think the 63TT with performance package is more like 600hp. Just my 2 cents.
Ive been telling my friends that MB's claimed numbers are probably very conservative. No different then 469hp claimed by MB for the E55. We all know it's 500hp.
I think the 63TT with performance package is more like 600hp. Just my 2 cents.
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wow! I said even a tuned pp cls 63 vs stock 65 of Any model would/will be a great race, I only add that due to Ali stating he handily beats 65's in his stock clstt pp, i'll stand by both comments a stock 65 will run a good race vs Both as the pp pkg ONLY gains another 40 hp 40tq as the Renntech results are from another neutered oem car ie like the c63's
The extra power gained in tuned clspp would still have less tq though 30 odd more hp, again a great race.. Im over my bench racing for the evening whew! it's strenuous lol
ps that stock sl65 11.50 @ 120 would beat the stock cls pp in your example by 6 car lengths ie clspp 12.1 @ 121 every tenth = 1 length, so again add 40 hp 40 tq after tune on cls pp = just about even..
The extra power gained in tuned clspp would still have less tq though 30 odd more hp, again a great race.. Im over my bench racing for the evening whew! it's strenuous lol
ps that stock sl65 11.50 @ 120 would beat the stock cls pp in your example by 6 car lengths ie clspp 12.1 @ 121 every tenth = 1 length, so again add 40 hp 40 tq after tune on cls pp = just about even..
i said it in the begining, MB is no honest with PP is being 30hp more than the stock one.
clearly on street ( i raced a non PP CLS63TT, smoked him by more than 5 car lengths and was pulling away) and on the dyno the diffrence is way more than 30hp at the crank.
so don't just take the numbers from MB and compare.
it is true that it may has less TQ than 65, but remeber this:
65 TQ falls down after 4k RPM and 63TT does not fall the much
65 revs less by 1000 RPM than 63TT
63TT has its MAX hp from 4500 - 7000 RPM and does not fall.
so in real life, when we race RPM is never below 3000 RPM to use the huge TQ from 65s. driving @ maximum hp is on the 63TT side. MCT shifts way fast and CLS/E are lighter.
it may be true 65 i raced had bad cooling or maybe our hot weather is not in favor with 65 owners.
but i wrote what i experienced in real life with my own car.
i am not claiming every 63TT is faster than 65.
so just to conclude everything in a simple way.
i would rater to have a car that has 530rwhp from 4000 - 7000 rpm. than to have a car that has 550rwhp from 6000 - 6200 rpm.
my friend, you will need to drive one and test it by yourself.
some members do own some and we are sharing what we experience and see.
so please don't just argue with articles you read or figures from brouchers.
65s who got below 12 were inspecting their cars well and prepared for the drag ( tires, IC pumps, etc)
in real life, not all of them will do it or will launch their cars perfectly.
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Just because your imaginary friend above said so, you now claim it is a fact? Damm I hope he didn't tell you the world will end tomorrow. Grow up fanboy.
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We all know how impartial Gustav is... As for a rolling race- I can see the Pan TT S losing due to weight and gearing. But no chance will the F10 M5 take a Pan TT or TT S from a dig.
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There are several dynos posted in the CLS55/63 forum that show the gains on a non PP car that are very similar to the descriptions above.
FYI- I just got a CLS63TT on Friday--- with the PP and the car is amazing. I had a W215 CL65 which had about 550hp (tuned) at the wheels and about 4800 lbs curb weight and while Ill never be able to run them side by side I feel that the CLSTT would take it in a roll. Drag racing and rolling races are definitely a different beast (as mentioned) and the CLS with its more efficient 7 speed MCT tranny vs. the old 5 speed slushy and the weight variance plays a big part. Oh and by the way, this car can handle with springs up front and the PP AMG extra stiff shocks as well. The steering is so much better than in the past (my W211 E55 and the CL65) as well. Of course Im comparing a 2012 vs a 2005 but since Ive had both I thought Id mention it. 0-100 in Road and Track (sorry about the mag quote) yielded a 8.3 second measurement... not bad.
Once I get about 1k miles on it, Im gonna get a tune to push the car past 600 hp. And I can finally check my text messages on the Nav screen--- this is the real reason why I bought the car .... LOL
FYI- I just got a CLS63TT on Friday--- with the PP and the car is amazing. I had a W215 CL65 which had about 550hp (tuned) at the wheels and about 4800 lbs curb weight and while Ill never be able to run them side by side I feel that the CLSTT would take it in a roll. Drag racing and rolling races are definitely a different beast (as mentioned) and the CLS with its more efficient 7 speed MCT tranny vs. the old 5 speed slushy and the weight variance plays a big part. Oh and by the way, this car can handle with springs up front and the PP AMG extra stiff shocks as well. The steering is so much better than in the past (my W211 E55 and the CL65) as well. Of course Im comparing a 2012 vs a 2005 but since Ive had both I thought Id mention it. 0-100 in Road and Track (sorry about the mag quote) yielded a 8.3 second measurement... not bad.
Once I get about 1k miles on it, Im gonna get a tune to push the car past 600 hp.
And I can finally check my text messages on the Nav screen--- this is the real reason why I bought the car .... LOLYou don't waste any time. Which car from your stable is getting axe?
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