e500slr

There's a CLK63 Black with a Weistec that's making about 660rwhp, does this mean the E63 with a Weistec would blow the E55 to bits? I haven't seen many, only one that claims to be a Weistec E63 but it sound legit because you can hear the supercharger. Now this particular one doesn't seem to be faster than stock after 100km/h but if a CLK63 BS can make 660whp using the 63 motor then why not an E63? If so then what's your opinion on selling the E55 and just getting an E63 and installing this Weistec. Not sure how the gearbox holds with the old 7-spd but the CLK BS has the old one and the owner hasn't reported problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90uFV...eature=related

This is JRCART's CLK63 BS running high 10s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrg6u4N5xU4

Hammer Down

One thing that you must know about Jim's ride is that it's not your typically modded CLK BS. You name and he has it. Not every E63 with just a Weistec system will make 660hp.

Jakpro1

Like most guys on this forum, only one way to find out.

Let us know the results.

Always dreamed of running blown 6.2

gaspam

i thought the 600ish HP figures are crank extrapolated, not wheel hp? according to Weistec site's dyno graphs they are putting down 500whp for just the s/c upgrade and 538whp for s/c with LT headers on the 63 engines

http://weistec.com/m156sc.html

if that is true then i wouldnt see any reason to swap E55 for E63 unless you get a screaming deal on a 63 since you will have to put another $20K into it to get it to bolt on E55 hp levels...

and just heard weistec is talking about coming out with a s/c for the e55 crowd so might even be better time to get a e55

MB_Forever

The E63 is way too heavy to dip into the 10s as easily as the CLK63 BS can. Not to mention that Jrcart's CLK63 BS was a monster to begin with. And by the way, his car doesn't just have a blower.... he also has long-tube headers with full race exhaust, 100 octane race tune, intake mods, SLS heads, and at one point SLS cams (not sure if he removed them before or after he ran 10s), race seats, and a few other weight-reduction mods. He stated that he invested $300k into that car (includes price of the car). Also, he just finished a custom hood with RAM air setup and working on a few other mods which may push him into the low 10s if not high 9s.

I think the E63 with just a blower and tune can hit mid to high 11s.... adding long-tube headers, race tune, and light weight rims in good weather would probably yield 11.20s to 11.40s. Hopefully someone with a blower will track their car so we can see what the setup is capable of

AKnight55

This... Not to mention the super light weight wheels he is running..

BenzoBoi

If there is a E63 Weistec, I'd love to run it for the sake of comparison.

I'm not the fastest 211 out there but I think my car is a lil quicker than stock.

infantry

No replacement for displacement.

e500slr

300k invested?!? That's alot to get it into the 10s. By the way what do you mean regarding the E63 being heavy? How heavy are the E63s, I thought the E63s were around 4000 lbs just like the E55.

I'm not sick of my car but I have looked at a couple of 63s and after driving it I was shocked at just how different the 2 cars are. I'm not sure which I prefer but the 63 feels "tighter", it's hard to explain but I just feel it's more responsive and for some reason the steering seems to feel better. It definitely turns into corners better, you feel it on the inside wheel. The exhaust sound is also amazing especially in person, the thing sounds like you're riding a storm

GT-ER

W211/W212 E63's aren't any heavier than W211 E55's.

Also, the $300K apparently includes the price of the car which is pretty much half that. I can imagine he also has other mods that rack up the $$$ because I'm sure he doesn't have $150K into the engine alone.

AKnight55

His wheels alone where like over $10 grand

GT-ER

tbal

Installed said n done what's the weistec blower run $?

urbamworm

There are links to their site in the thread they made, it was like $14k or $15k for the CLK63 and other 63 models and is why I said it will be interesting to see what this E55 offering is they are working on. Considering that you can do the every mod available set up that Eurocharged offers for the e55 for $7k and make over 500whp so they would have to price their supercharger at literally half of what the other one is selling for or why in the world would someone buy it? It would have to be priced at around $7k and make 550whp minimum to be worth buying in my opinion or it would be pointless and a total waste to buy it since like I said for $7k you can make 550whp and 600+wtq with a big pulley and all the other bolt on mods and cooling system parts or do some ported heads and cams along with all those parts and make 600whp for still well under $15k.

The E63 offering made 421whp with headers, no cats, exhaust and filters and then with their supercharger (stage 1+ which is the different drive ratio and tuning for a car with exhaust) made 538whp 529wtq which as you know is what you get basically for $7k in the E55 but more torque than what they made. So that setup is basically knocking on $20k in the E63 to get our power with stock blower. They must be using a larger blower and looking for more like mid 600s at the wheels since I assume they know what the E55 makes with the power packages available right now and what it costs to make it ($7k to do what they just did for almost $20k).

Havoc

Their complete S/C system is $15K without installation.

http://www.weistec.com/m156sc.html

citylightva

HRE/Dymags...I think they push closer to $20K actually and you can't even get them any more

From what I've seen he's running the stock cams right now...He made some comments in the class action thread on the PL about them...

citylightva

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm sure most people looking at this are looking for a slightly newer car or are mostly C63 owners...The chances of many E owners doing this is slim in my mind...

citylightva

Fat a** 4200 lbs. with the Pano....

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

Unless I could use dollar bills instead of gas to heat my house, I wouldn't put a blower on my E63. Blow that motor and it's a lot more than $15k plus installation, and you're really betting that Hans didn't rock too hard at Oktoberfest when he built your M156.

Besides, just wait a year and pick up a TT E63. Problem solved.

MB_Forever

You are correct. The official curb weight of the E63 is around the same as the E55, which is around 4050 lbs give or take a few pounds depending on which Mercedes website you use. However, unlike the E55s, almost all E63s came equipped with more options (at least Premium Package 1 with a huge majority of those having Premium Package 2), and a few with the pano roof option (which adds even more weight).

At a Sacramento track event (a couple of years back), for example, we had many E55 and E63 owners who participated and we all decided to weight the cars before running them; I can't remember the exact numbers but I remember that the difference between the two cars came out to be around 150 lbs. Now if you compare the E63 to the even lighter CLk63 Black Series (3900 lbs), you get an even bigger weight gap depending on options.

I'm not saying it's impossible to get an E63 into the 10s, I'm just saying it'll be much harder than CLK63 Black Series.

If you have a 2005 or 2006 E55, then you've gotten the updated parts from the CLS. If you have a 2003 or 2004 E55, then yeah.... the difference is obvious

The price of the car at the time was around $130k and I think he may have had a better deal than sticker since he has solid connections with his local Mercedes dealer, but don't know for sure as I don't recall reading about specifics.

I don't know what the breakdown is in terms of price for mods, but he does have a lot of non-engine mods: carbon fiber aerodynamic parts, lighter brakes, custom suspension, custom roll cage, diffuser, spoiler, etc... Some of the cost overlaps with different vendors as well. For example, he had a Powerchip tune then an MHP tune then back to Powerchip then now Weistec, and so fourth. He also has invested some money into research in development trying out different cams, heads, intake, exhaust, etc...

LOL.... the pano roof has it's perks though

AKnight55

Yea I think your right about them being closer to $20k.. I just threw 10 out there to be conservative..


Your right thats a lot of $$ invested to get into the 10s, but you have to remember the clk bs is not a designed drag car.. His car is well set up for the track that has turns in it too..(and believe he actually tracks it too)

MBH motorsports

Here are some wheel number for you.
Before:
Dyno-Comp Tune
MBH headers, Mid-section
Carbonio airbox

After:
Weistec Supercharger
MBH Headers and mid-section

Looks like a 120whp.

This kit is no joke, its well made and fitment is awesome.

DAGREEKNYC

If that blower was out when i started modding my 211 or i can bet Mo
MBforever " as well wouldve done the Weistec in a heartbeat . All the bolt ons cost just as much as the blower .

Im leaning towards the Weistec for my CL but thats down the road .

Girard@ACGautomotive

Weistec has great product on their hands. Its CARB legal to boot. Here are the numbers on the Weistec C63 we have built. These numbers are at the wheels:

Havoc

One should do both!

All the bolt-ons plus the Weistec S/C!