Why do SLR's put down 600+whp on our same superchargers?
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i saw the vath i/c and is relatively inexpensive considering what some people were guessing the Evosport one in development would cost...
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
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i think that an american site that is a vendor for vaeth just reselling so they are apparently lazy vendor
i looked up the german site and there are pics there but looks jsut like a heat exchanger and not the s/c intercooler (and yes i know a h/e is technically an I/c tambien )
http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refi.../e-55-amg.html
i looked up the german site and there are pics there but looks jsut like a heat exchanger and not the s/c intercooler (and yes i know a h/e is technically an I/c tambien )
http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refi.../e-55-amg.html
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i saw the vath i/c and is relatively inexpensive considering what some people were guessing the Evosport one in development would cost...
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
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This should help!
Weistec is about to release their new 3.0 liter twin screw system with a very similar air to water intercooler setup for the 55K!
Weistec is about to release their new 3.0 liter twin screw system with a very similar air to water intercooler setup for the 55K!
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i saw the vath i/c and is relatively inexpensive considering what some people were guessing the Evosport one in development would cost...
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
has anyone looked at the vath one? i am assuming its just an under the s/c replacement one given that claimed increased efficiency is in the 5-8% range
http://www.fiercespeed.com/mercedes-...r-e55-amg.html
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SLR differs in alot of ways:
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
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SLR differs in alot of ways:
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
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yup i have seen them, the valves on top are diffrent also and bigger, wont fit normal 55k.
i think someone was making larger of these, a member here, Exotic-metal i think.
same concept.
cooling is the min thing.
i remember in summer (outide temp 40C) with lots of WOTs, MAX IATs reached 62C.
after moding it.
i think someone was making larger of these, a member here, Exotic-metal i think.
same concept.
cooling is the min thing.
i remember in summer (outide temp 40C) with lots of WOTs, MAX IATs reached 62C.
after moding it.
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SLR differs in alot of ways:
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
Fuel system & injectors, Pistons, cranckcase (non oil) , engine head, S/C ratio, intake, camshafts, lots of cooling mods, TB is completely diffrent, bypass valve is part of the inlet (E55k is under the S/C), S/C oil has a cooling system that the oil moves to a cooler and comes back, SLR manifold is between LT and short headers (medium). SS cats in exhuast.
these are the things i noticed, after installing some mods on a 722S we were able to reach 650rwhp (stock 530rwhp) dynoroom temp was 37C with no fan on 93 pump gas. and there is still some more room to make it reach more and it revs to 7200RPM, i think even 700rwhp is possible with more mods. it showed more power than a modded SL65BS.
Jeremy tuned it from OE Tuning.
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I think some people are over looking the that the SLR block is built for pig power. Its a closed deck block, where as the standard M113 in the 55's is a open deck block.
There are some cooling benefits of an open deck block, but the closed deck can take more power. As defection is greatly reduced with pig power on a closed deck block. I bet if we got up to massive power levels. You would see some people having issues with an open deck block.
I think forged pistons and rods are great. As they can handle big power. However once you start knocking on the door of huge power (700-800whp???) i'm not sure our mass produced 55 block will be able to take it.
With that said its more than just the pistons, rods, cams, and cooling. This block in the SLR is stronger than your run of the mill 55 block.
There are some cooling benefits of an open deck block, but the closed deck can take more power. As defection is greatly reduced with pig power on a closed deck block. I bet if we got up to massive power levels. You would see some people having issues with an open deck block.
I think forged pistons and rods are great. As they can handle big power. However once you start knocking on the door of huge power (700-800whp???) i'm not sure our mass produced 55 block will be able to take it.
With that said its more than just the pistons, rods, cams, and cooling. This block in the SLR is stronger than your run of the mill 55 block.
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I think some people are over looking the that the SLR block is built for pig power. Its a closed deck block, where as the standard M113 in the 55's is a open deck block.
There are some cooling benefits of an open deck block, but the closed deck can take more power. As defection is greatly reduced with pig power on a closed deck block. I bet if we got up to massive power levels. You would see some people having issues with an open deck block.
I think forged pistons and rods are great. As they can handle big power. However once you start knocking on the door of huge power (700-800whp???) i'm not sure our mass produced 55 block will be able to take it.
With that said its more than just the pistons, rods, cams, and cooling. This block in the SLR is stronger than your run of the mill 55 block.
There are some cooling benefits of an open deck block, but the closed deck can take more power. As defection is greatly reduced with pig power on a closed deck block. I bet if we got up to massive power levels. You would see some people having issues with an open deck block.
I think forged pistons and rods are great. As they can handle big power. However once you start knocking on the door of huge power (700-800whp???) i'm not sure our mass produced 55 block will be able to take it.
With that said its more than just the pistons, rods, cams, and cooling. This block in the SLR is stronger than your run of the mill 55 block.
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Yeah, even though I have iron sleeves in my 55K block, I'm scared I'll end up with this once I crank up the boost especially with increased compression. Oh well..
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I'l try to get some definitive info from my U.S. source when I get back to FL in January.
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Lightweight forged connecting rods really doesn't say much though and the 55K also has lightweight forged connecting rods. The SLR's rods looks identical to the 55K's and I would think that if they were Ti rods they would be thicker. Not to mention I would believe that most articles would actually state that the rods are Titanium since that metal is so unique.
I look forward to any additional info you can get on this.
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Roger that and thanks for the overview.
Lightweight forged connecting rods really doesn't say much though and the 55K also has lightweight forged connecting rods. The SLR's rods looks identical to the 55K's and I would think that if they were Ti rods they would be thicker. Not to mention I would believe that most articles would actually state that the rods are Titanium since that metal is so unique.
I look forward to any additional info you can get on this.
Lightweight forged connecting rods really doesn't say much though and the 55K also has lightweight forged connecting rods. The SLR's rods looks identical to the 55K's and I would think that if they were Ti rods they would be thicker. Not to mention I would believe that most articles would actually state that the rods are Titanium since that metal is so unique.
I look forward to any additional info you can get on this.
I'd also be surprised if anyone (who knows what they're doing) recommends a Ti con rod in a high-torque application like a supercharged motor.