W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Stage I power gains? Kleemann etc.

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Stage I power gains? Kleemann etc.

I am wondering what kind of power/torque gains you guys are seeing with a 168 pulley and tuning?

I searched but couldn't find what I was looking for, maybe cause I can't search well.

I was thinking 80HP/100TQ crank gains? Maybe 60rwhp/80rwtq? More?


Is it safe/relible to run the Kleemann StageI with just an EC H/E and Johnson pump and everything else stock on the car?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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stage 1 on any tuner would net you about 40-50whp and 60-80rwt with a 168 pulley and that setup you have is the safest there is.

Adding a bigger pulley,TB,headers and intake will make more power but will tax the engine a little more.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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I say 168, headers, ec h/e, johnson pump, tb and tune will get you a pretty big gain
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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168 pulley, Kleemans and OEtune got my big fat slob of a car to run a best of 11.62 @119.50...4600lb with me in it ;-)

I think its a nice safe combo.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
168 pulley, Kleemans and OEtune got my big fat slob of a car to run a best of 11.62 @119.50...4600lb with me in it ;-)

I think its a nice safe combo.
you got kleeman headers?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Whats up bro when you coming back down?

Yea they were on when you were here.
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Whats up bro when you coming back down?

Yea they were on when you were here.

Sunday the 15th, check your PMs sent you something interesting, also watch my youtube video in my signature tell me what you think
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Sunday the 15th, check your PMs sent you something interesting, also watch my youtube video in my signature tell me what you think
That sounds crazy, like a modded S55
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
168 pulley, Kleemans and OEtune got my big fat slob of a car to run a best of 11.62 @119.50...4600lb with me in it ;-)

I think its a nice safe combo.
Jesus Christ! You ran that time with those mods in an SL55
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Jesus Christ! You ran that time with those mods in an SL55
Track was PBIR, it was a nice cool night temps around 60 with little humidity.

There's a E55 (motorkas) with a similiar setup running low 11's..his sig reads

"Kleemann headers, Kleemann 168 pulley, custom OE tune, CF intake tubes, K&N filters, Eurocharged HE = 11.26 @ 123.7"

168 I think is the safest pulley you can run with the correct tune of course.I would go with fuel rail and injector upgrade before going with anything larger than a 168.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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I run a Kleeman 168, EC Tune, Long tubes, and upgraded HE. I think it's a "safe" setup...and am extremely happy with the power.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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A 168mm is definitely an under rated pulley. It makes big gains, safely, consistently and as you can see by Motorkas's beast, it will get you deep into the low 11's

Pullejo has also taken many prisoners on the track and street with that setup, along with scaring the hell out of people at outside bars with his fly bye's..... EPIC WIN!!!
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:00 AM
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Who would ever use additional power to enlighten someone's outdoor dining experience?



http://youtu.be/K9uExca6Xsw
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Originally Posted by Baronet1
I was thinking 80HP/100TQ crank gains? Maybe 60rwhp/80rwtq?

That sounds about right with a safe, reliable tune.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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21% gain for me...168, Tune, HE, Headers.
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Originally Posted by pullejo
Who would ever use additional power to enlighten someone's outdoor dining experience?



http://youtu.be/K9uExca6Xsw
sounds like my car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGQEdCjc58g

set off that car alarm at the end
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