tbal

So in a certain thread there was speculation over what kleemann considers k1 and k2... I thought I post this as certain people needed to be educated about Kleemann.

So I decided to email who else Cory over at Kleemann USA... Fantastic guy btw always quick to help no matter what the questions maybe...

My message...

Reply...

K1 = pulley
K2 = pulley and headers

/discussion. Haha told you so

AKnight55

Yes you have a stage 2 car.. However, I wouldnt consider it a k2 car unless you have Kleemanns tune.

AKnight55

The K would refer to Kleemann

skratch77

Wow tbal your really losing sleep over this lol

you have a stage 2 car and for the record when I told you you didnt have a K car I only thought you had a 168 pulley an EC tune.

tune stage .5
pulley/tune stage 1
pulley tune headers stage 2
pulley tune headers TB stage 3

and soo on,you seem to think I care about your stage x when Im trying to tell you you have a stage X tuners car

if you blow up your engine tom will you say kleemann blew up my engine?

and dont you have a custom tuned file anyways? send your ecu to kleemann and join the 600rwt guys with the headers you just got a run a true K car.

KLR CLS

So if I add my new Kleeman cams on top of my Stage 4+ Car does it mean I am now a K5+. If I add Kleemann badges front and rear does that make me K6 and K7 respectively per badge? If I tatoo Kleemann on my forehead is that K8?

Also...who cares...

tbal

Can't argue with what kleemann said
I don't care just wanted to prove scratch wrong

End discussion

theeddie

this is why stages are stupid

tbal

Wow your even stupider than scrtch

KLR CLS

Easy there kid, I was just pointing out the absurdity of "Stages", and didn't mean to get in between you and scratch's lovers quarell.

peace

gaspam

i have a stage 3+ audi s4

skratch77

ohh man you proved me soo wrong...coming from the person that didnt even know his car had a pulley on it.

if your engine blows up who are you going to call? Kleemann or your tuner?

tbal

I bought a car with 24k miles on it thought it wasn't modded as per dealer claimed, I didn't know it had a pulley. Oh no!!! Haha

1. Car won't blow up
2. Idk genius who do you think would be responsible if the car blew
Up? Neither! THE OWNER! For most part. Of course the tuner is accountable in some cases...

E55Bullet

Wait I'm confused now. I have an ASP pulley, Kleaman headers and EC tune. And MB TB what the heck am I? ASP stage 3

AKnight55

So if your tuner put a bad tune in your car, youd be happy and take full responsibility for your blown engine

BBBSS

bigben320e

I should hope not. Don't tuners usually offer a warranty on tunes that they perform? Certain mileage, etc?

AKnight55

Not sure, but they should certainly take some responsibility should this happen.. But then that brings up the point of did the car have supporting mods (fuel rail and injectors)???

BBBSS

Never ever heard of anything like this. If something goes wrong its basically a good will measure on the tuners part if they do anything at all for you. If there is something obviously wrong with the tune I'm sure they'd fix it. If you pop a motor your gonna be chasing your tail trying to get a tuner to pay for it usually. Any big name tuner won't pop motors or will tell you your fuel system isn't able to keep up or whatever the problem may be, and anyone not big name tuners can't afford to make those kinds of repairs and will make excuses.

emoving

I have a Kleemann K10, 2 for the pulley, tune and headers and 8 for the 8 letters of the KLEEMANN badge on the engine!

skratch77

Hey what exh are you going with with your setup emoving?

Jimshorts

So what would a tune+headers be considered? Stage 1?

emoving

Kleemann headers, Kleemann tune, Kleemann 168 and green filters. Goes to the shop tomorrow. Getting some engine paint done as well.

skratch77

Soo k2.5 lol im looking for cls muflers and figured you had the exh already.i think you might want more sound out of that setup.its almost like stock compared to your old cls

tbal

Guess you can't read as usual. Go read again.

Yes

Looks like you should work for kleemann. You know more than Cory.
According to Cory regardless of tune
K1 = pulley
K2 = pulley headers
Rest goto kleemann website

Badges, filters $25 glued on pullies don't change anything

splinter

No one in his right mind cares anyway. We’re done with this one.