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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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'05 E55, HRE 847R's black centers, black grille
rubbing problems on my fronts

I've been having a rubbing problem on my front fender wells for years and don't know how to correct it. Any help would be appreciated. I am running 8.5x20 HREs in the front with 245/30/20 PS2s. What do you guys think about running a skinnier tire on the fronts? Or maybe just a different brand of tires that might have a slightly different cut? My car is not lowered but I constantly have problems when I am turning and going over small dips. It doesn't seem right. Thanks in advance.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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I have same issue on right front with 255/35 19's. I'm just a bit carful.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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funny you should post this...was just searching myself with the same problem..

i am running pzero 245/35-20s on my front hres...and should be running 245/30-20s
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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check your offset...there's no reason you should be rubbing with that set-up if it has the correct offset. as a point of referrence, i'm lowered significantly with 255/35/19's and don't rub under any circumstance!
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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'05 E55, HRE 847R's black centers, black grille
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@chiromikey - I spoke to HRE and darkside motoring and they said the same thing, I should not have any problem. I also spoke to Darkside Motoring, who I ordered the HRE's through, and they said the same thing. What brand of tires are you running?

@loungn14 - what do you like/dislike about the pzero nero? HRE and Darkside to me to run a pirelli or conti since the cut of the tire is slightly less boxy than the PS2.

@crhait - I've been very careful for years, but I continue to have this problem and I'm so over it. I've had to have my fenders repaired and painted multiple times due to the rubbing.

I'm thinking about driving down to HRE and having them inspect the rims to see if they were cut with the incorrect offset. BTW, my fenders are rolled.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
check your offset...there's no reason you should be rubbing with that set-up if it has the correct offset. as a point of referrence, i'm lowered significantly with 255/35/19's and don't rub under any circumstance!

what off set are u running on your wheels cause i have 19's and i rub to im changing my tires to 245 35 19 from 245 40 19 so i hope that helps a bit. i have a set of savini's on my 55 that came on the car and don't ahve the slightest of clue what my off set is anyway to find out?

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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:38 PM
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'05 E55, HRE 847R's black centers, black grille
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@bnzuovr - I don't know the offset for sure. I can probably call Tito or Vince from HRE and ask them. When I asked Tito earlier, all he told me was that my setup was their bread and butter setup that they use for all the 55's. ?????

What's the max offset or standard offsets that people use on their fronts?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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@bnzuovr - I don't know the offset for sure. I can probably call Tito or Vince from HRE and ask them. When I asked Tito earlier, all he told me was that my setup was their bread and butter setup that they use for all the 55's. ?????

What's the max offset or standard offsets that people use on their fronts?
not sure ive seen so many diffrent offsets. Im sure it verys with rim size anybody else know what the proper offset might be for 18,19 or 20's?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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Feel free to email me your serial number or specs. I'll see what I can do to double check your wheel fitment.

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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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@lon@hre, I just sent you an email. Any help you can give me getting this figured out would be great. Thanks in advance!
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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i've run front offsets from 35 to 40 on several different 19x8.5" rims with 255/35/19 's from slightly to significantly lowered with no problem. i've also run several different tire brands...michelin ps2's, toyo t1r's, nitto invos, and hankook v12's.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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20x8.5 on 245/30 conti extreme dw slammed no rubs... You seem to have an aggressive offset?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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'05 E55, HRE 847R's black centers, black grille
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Today I was able to verify that my front offset is 28.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bigc
Today I was able to verify that my front offset is 28.
wow, that is DEFINITELY the wrong offset. get it fixed and enjoy your car!!!
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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wow, that is DEFINITELY the wrong offset. get it fixed and enjoy your car!!!
So the higher the offset the less agressive sorry if its a silly question? or how is this calculated if you don't mind me asking?
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wow, that is DEFINITELY the wrong offset. get it fixed and enjoy your car!!!
So the higher the offset the less agressive sorry if its a silly question? or how is this calculated if you don't mind me asking?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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So the higher the offset the less agressive sorry if its a silly question? or how is this calculated if you don't mind me asking?
yes...if you're definition of "aggressive" is as close to the outer fender lip as possible. basically, the higher the offset, the more the rim is pulled inward.

usually, rims will have the offset stamped somewhere on the inner lip area. typically, it's a number in millimeters preceded by "et".
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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is it rubbing on the inside or outside of the fender?

Originally Posted by chiromikey
wow, that is DEFINITELY the wrong offset. get it fixed and enjoy your car!!!
not the "wrong" offset, just takes a little finesse to make them fit I'm running a 19x8.5 et18 offset with no rubbing and slammed. but yes, your lower offset is probably what is causing you too rub.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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is it rubbing on the inside or outside of the fender?



not the "wrong" offset, just takes a little finesse to make them fit I'm running a 19x8.5 et18 offset with no rubbing and slammed. but yes, your lower offset is probably what is causing you too rub.
damn, that's impressive! i'm shocked you got that to work without stretching a smaller width tire...or maybe you did. what size tire?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Try running Hankook EVO V12's, the tires are more rounded from the sidewall to tread.. For my 20's, I was running 235/35/20 and it was perfect.. Yes it's stretched, but it prevented the rubbing..
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 02:49 AM
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@amg_rl - it rubs on the outside fender

@chiromikey - HRE says that is the correct offset for that wheel I may drive down to HRE to have them checked out

@sytfu_rick - I was kind of afraid of the Hankook's. I saw a few bad reviews on the forum. What's your take on the handling and road noise?

What are your guys' opinions on stretched tires? Is it that big of an issue?
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if it was the correct offset then you would be having these issues. taking it to them is a good idea.
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