gaspam

let's put all this calculator math accusations to rest...

now first disclaimer, mad props to e55rocket for the e55 record and def not calling him out... just making a point to how the 1/4 et calculators are BS as i have said before...

if we take his 10.51 1/4 mile time and his 4400-4500 weight and 619whp you will get a 1/4 calculated time of 11.19 .... that is off by about 7% from his 10.51 actual time..

if we take the SLR 9.68 and claimed 4100 lbs and 680 whp you will get a 1/4 calculated time of 10.6 which is off by about 8% from the actual 9.68 time..

both e55rocket and the SLR ran about 7-8% faster than the math/ physics calcs, everyone is talking about, would dictate...

i believe both ran what they said they ran and they both deserve credit without people trying to discredit them.

fact of the matter is, based on math and physics an E55 that weighs 4400lbs theoretically needs 655whp to break 11 secs... so do we need to cry NOS whenever an e55 breaks the 11 sec barrier?

bottom line, those calculators are laughable at best so dont use them to cry foul against the SLR or else we need to follow the same logic for any E55 that has broken the 11 sec barrier.

and once again- congrats to the SLR for pushing MB futher into the 9's and congrats to E55rocket for pushing the E55 futher than anyone else has

RedBullJnky

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Nuff said!

e55amgrocket

Let's do some calculations. I made 619rwhp on a warm engine with no Ice in the tank and not icing the supercharger or surge tanks down. We all know how much all that helps. I am confident I'm making close to 650rwhp now and also ran with my restrictive filters on those runs that I dyno'd with. My car also weighed in at 4380 so let's say it could of been close to 4360 by that time. I ran skinnies on the front which also helps and is proven which the SLR was on atleast heavy 19's. Yea now my time seems completely possible. 9.68@142 with even 700hp and say 4000lbs still ain't gonna happen. Keep dreaming or maybe your hitting the nitrous with them. We're not saying its not a record because it is and that's flying but don't sit here and say we put headers ,tb,and suspension and it runs 142 in the 1/4. Yea that throttle body has a nice nozzle siting in front of it or maybe it has a nice stealth direct port kit on it. I street raced for years and without people knowing I was spraying and a close friend of mine did the same. Just fess up Renntech we aren't stupid.

kustom2k1

Is this the package that puts an SLR in the 9s
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/www/node/782

gaspam

4360 lbs at 650whp still = 10.98 calculated 1/4 mile ET which is still off by 5% form your 10.51... would you like me to post the formula so you can try and figure out a reason why the calculation doesnt apply to you but does apply to the SLR ?

not saying you were spraying in your 10.51 time but just saying lets not rely on BS momentum calculations which have giant standardized error. Dont hold the SLR to the formulas if you are not willing to hold yourself to the same formula..

RedBullJnky

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Thericker

hyperion667

you're right, thanx for reminding me!!
and thanx for keeping up with me!

emoving

Good job! The 3 day countdown begins. We are all on pins and needles for your next picture!

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e500slr

Great answer and very well written and explained, you're right about the calculators I'm just wondering how they got an SLR to 4100 pounds, it's not a stretch to imagine since the driver and the mods would take it up ~220 pounds from it's stock weight but didn't they do any weight reduction, I mean any at all Either way amazing run and great respect to Renntech and to the SLR, they have nothing to gain by lying about running or not running NOS it would be ridiculous and pretty pathetic to lie and just damn pointless.

e55amgrocket

EXACTLY. So my car runs faster than the "calculator" says it should. Im not saying anything about the calculator. Im saying what i know and what i've seen on thousands of cars making passes and my own cars. So lets get back to your calculator statement. So if the SLR makes 30rwhp more than me and weighs 260lbs less than that worth almost 1 full second AND 10mph? I think you need to watch a couple days worth of drag racing or ask someone that knows something. If you honestly think they are telling you the truth you are beyond dumb. Either that car is WAY lighter than they're saying (like around 3400-3500 with driver) or that engine is making about 780rwph without nitrous. I can put a 150-200 shot on my car and spray it into the 9's also but obviously everyone would know somethings up when i trap 140+. Trap speed tells a big story about a car's power. But you would already know that wouldn't you??? Let me ask you a question. Do you believe 100% the car makes 680RWHP and weighs 4100lbs and ran a 9.68@142?

boohooramblers

I think this SLR has significant weight-reducing modifications:

It has a Mansory Renovatio bodykit and a custom interior.
The bodykit supposedly has significant weight-reductions:

e500slr

I do suspect weight savings because the figure they gave is too rounded. I don't think they weighed it they probably just gave the weight with a driver. Even though the SLR is carbon chassis I think the bodywork could have more savings in it and they've clearly changed the bodykit. Maybe it is lighter. Things add up like battery, wheels, bodywork etc I know a weight saving of 150 pounds isn't going to shave a great deal but I'm just saying, maybe it's not 4100 lbs.

E55AMGGG04

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Das Geld 2

I thought E55Rocket sprayed to get 10.51? Didn't he post saying he used a 40 shot?

e55amgrocket

There was no spray that run or on a 10.56 run either. I tried spraying a couple times after that but the car was spinning off the line and I wouldnt spray it if it spun or the 60ft was bad.

ecampbell

Bein the discussion about weight in this thread, I am curious whether an 8 point is in the SLR. I thought an 8 point, nets, and a chute are needed by nhra once you are in the 9's...all things that add 100 plus pounds....or does pbir let you run without.

alextaylor29

This from a guy with 28 posts?

gaspam

you are completely missing the point again... math says that your car should run 10.98 if you are truly at 655 hp... please post 655 whp dyno btw ( you heat and icing excusing apply to the SLR too... so let pretend they dyno'd hot like you said you did, when they ran their 680whp #'s).. ok not that we got that out of the way back to the math..

you ran faster than the calculater.. whoo hoo you understand that part! and guess what....... so did the SLR! both of your cars ran 5-7% faster than what the calculators would dictate....

you understand now? both your car and the SLR ran FASTER than the MATH indicates by about the SAME variance..... but your right, the SLR is cheating and lying and you are not... ok makes perfect sense

oh and i have been to the dragstrip too so dont get too cocky about you drag experience in your mecedes . Back in the day when i was younger and cared about going to the track as a teen, before i got a real job and life, i ran my 90' camaro rs 401 sb w/1050 holley, dart heads, 4.88 gears and th400 tranny weighing just under 3000lbs all motor in the low 9's/uper 150's all day long(which plenty of people run wayyy faster than that on that platform) . but your right, i dont know anything

oh and now that you are bringing up what you think you can do on nos, i dont think you can put a big shot of nos on your car and run 9's all day long because you did put nos on your car and ran slower at 10.56.

oh and to your question, i dont think the slr is on nos but like i said before i do not think its curb weight is exactly 4100lbs.....capisce?

back to bashing renntec and the SLR for you.

e55amgrocket

I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR MATH/CALCULATOR!!! You just said it yourself. " i dont think the slr is on nos but like i said before i do not think its curb weight is exactly 4100lbs.....capisce?" That means even you think they are lying like we've been saying all along. Plus 142 trap after they only ran like 135 before...yea your not finding another 7mph from dropping 300lbs. You forgot to answer my question if i dropped a few hundred pounds and picked up 50rwhp if i too will be running 9.60's?? And the shot of nitrous i have on my car is a 35hp shot at most. Like i stated before if the 60 ft was bad i didn't bother but i know i could spray 175 shot and run a high 9. Yea same thing renntech knows too.

gaspam

my point is i dont think they are running NOS.... which is what everyone is accusing them of and using math and physics as their logic

its hillarious over here, most other forums whether it be audi, bmw, mustang, camaro , when someone breaks a record everyone is happy for them but here you get a bunch of elitist that only feel good when raining on someone else's parade and bashin them.

once again CONGRATS renntech (even though i have all EC parts on my car) and congrats to the SLR owner for spending what it took to make it happen and congrats to SGC to piloting that bad boy

stevebez

Why dont Renntech just say whats been done to the car FFS?

Pointless speculating ...

JHouse

Girls, Isn't launching one of our fat *** machines controlled more by torque than HP? If the calculator doesn't control that, then it ought to be off.

e500slr

Exactly I mean it's not like it's some trade secret, it's not like everyone has an SLR and somehow knowing the mods are going to take it somewhere else who happen to just specialize in it. Or maybe they think some Chinese company will start selling SLR upgrades on Alibaba.com for $3/piece