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Old 11-12-2012, 11:04 PM
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I have been thinking about this today. I think the best way to get an idea of whether it is near fixed or an actual percentage is that if you had 100hp being soaked up by the drivetrain then a 100hp engine would barely if at all move that same car. No since we all know that not to be true then we can assume that it is a percentage of some kind. There are a lot of different Mercedes models that use the same transmission and the same differential or very close. And virtually identical other parts, ie axles and driveshaft bearings. So if a C230 kompressor only makes 180hp. Then it should take a pretty big chunk of that to run the driveline. But some how miraculously they have near the same loss percentage as a E55.
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I have been thinking about this today. I think the best way to get an idea of whether it is near fixed or an actual percentage is that if you had 100hp being soaked up by the drivetrain then a 100hp engine would barely if at all move that same car. No since we all know that not to be true then we can assume that it is a percentage of some kind. There are a lot of different Mercedes models that use the same transmission and the same differential or very close. And virtually identical other parts, ie axles and driveshaft bearings. So if a C230 kompressor only makes 180hp. Then it should take a pretty big chunk of that to run the driveline. But some how miraculously they have near the same loss percentage as a E55.
Excellent real world comparison and you're right that's why the percentage stays pretty close to the same even as you add more power.
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Not to belabour the issue but this relationship is not linear IMHO.

I think drivetrain loss increases at a slower rate as HP increases. The baseline drag/inertia losses do not change as HP does but frictional losses do....
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Well, it IS a fact that there is drivetrain loss...how much exactly is the theory.
This is exaclty what I said in an earlier post just not with the exact same verbiage. We are on the same page

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Not to belabour the issue but this relationship is not linear IMHO.

I think drivetrain loss increases at a slower rate as HP increases. The baseline drag/inertia losses do not change as HP does but frictional losses do.
This is close the point I was trying to get across.

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Speeddriven, where the H are you?!! You had so much momentum, what is the deal, this thing done yet?
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Speeddriven, where the H are you?!! You had so much momentum, what is the deal, this thing done yet?
I was thinking the exact same thing.....WHERE ARE YOU GUYS?
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I take it Speedriven has gone on vacation from this project........
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With the Weistec supercharger out, I doubt they will continue with this project.
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Why not....competition drives the market. They would be dumb NOT to continue with the project.
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Why not....competition drives the market. They would be dumb NOT to continue with the project.
With the small number of buyers in the market now being split between two companies. That doesn't sound good for Speeddriven
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But with Speedrivens price point of less than $2k over Weistecs system, it might be worth it and there could be more buyers.
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Perhaps some automotive Adderall could help them focus on projects? I was very exited for this blower upgrade as well but it appears to have been put on the same shelf as the 3.2 headers.
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Hey guys I plan to make a twin turbo conversion kit for the 55 motor in the near future. It will come out one of these days, some time between then and now, soon hopefully one day but I can take down payments now if enough are interested. Follow me as I post purdy pics of manifolds on my thread
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Hey guys I plan to make a twin turbo conversion kit for the 55 motor in the near future. It will come out one of these days, some time between then and now, soon hopefully one day but I can take down payments now if enough are interested. Follow me as I post purdy pics of manifolds on my thread
Where you going with this? I didn't see you step up and put down a deposit. The only people that have dollars in this game are those at Speedriven.
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Where you going with this? I didn't see you step up and put down a deposit. The only people that have dollars in this game are those at Speedriven.
Tough to tell, but I think he was being sarcastic
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Little birdy tells me Speedriven is still bringing there version of Whipple to market, don't loose hope.
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Little birdy tells me Speedriven is still bringing there version of Whipple to market, don't loose hope.

Where did you hear this......
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Speedriven can we get an update on this?
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Which MAN? Same guy who started this thread back in May 2012?
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It is official with today's dyno we are confident in revealing the kit. The hardware kits will now be available for purchase to the public. Please give us a call for more info.

Even tho it was very hot and humid we managed to put down some impressive numbers! We Will still be playing with it some more
17 psi pulley

Numbers

Another one coming out off the oven soon


The prices will vary depending on what you have or want in regards of fuel injectors, tb, intake and so on. This kit is designed to match the performance modifications one has.No point on buying a kit with stuff you have. More information and complete kit pictures and descriptions are coming soon.
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