W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Ultragauge?

Anyone used this ?

Any good ?

Dashdaq is super but not cheap.

http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/index.htm
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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dang $70 on sale - that's worth messing with!
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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this guage will only dispaly the PID your vehicle supports. another thing to consider is the more parameter you choose to sample via the OBD2 the slower the sample rate gets.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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If this is worth anything as far as quality go's I will most likely pick one up.. anybody tried this?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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I'm with Shardul, the sampling out of the OBD2 is the slowest thing on earth!
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PACougar
I'm with Shardul, the sampling out of the OBD2 is the slowest thing on earth!
Sorry guys but I disagree 100%, plus there are not too many options, unless you want to tap into the sensors themselves...

I use Zeitronix and Innovate loggers and both work great (coupled with their respective widebands).
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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We are a Dashdaq Dealer now Pretty Basa$$ unit. defenitly worth checking out:

https://mbworld.org/forums/vendor-an...st-prices.html
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:31 AM
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Sorry guys but I disagree 100%, plus there are not too many options, unless you want to tap into the sensors themselves...

I use Zeitronix and Innovate loggers and both work great (coupled with their respective widebands).
I'm confused, if you use Zeitronix and Innovate to do the logging the sensors ran into those will have a great sampling rate. It's just the OBD2 stuff that samples very slowly.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PACougar
I'm confused, if you use Zeitronix and Innovate to do the logging the sensors ran into those will have a great sampling rate. It's just the OBD2 stuff that samples very slowly.
OBD2 sampling rate is not that bad - perfectly fine for tuning. Anyone that tells you otherwise is mistaken. Could it be faster and is more data better, yes, but is it necessary - 99% the answer is no.

The only sensors that folks typically connect directly to the Innovate and Zeitronix units are wideband O2 (for air fuel ratios), MAP sensors (for boost or vacuum), and EGT (for cylinder temperatures).

Timing, RPM, and LFT/ SFT, and other data are general pulled from the OBD2.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
OBD2 sampling rate is not that bad - perfectly fine for tuning. Anyone that tells you otherwise is mistaken. Could it be faster and is more data better, yes, but is it necessary - 99% the answer is no.

The only sensors that folks typically connect directly to the Innovate and Zeitronix units are wideband O2 (for air fuel ratios), MAP sensors (for boost or vacuum), and EGT (for cylinder temperatures).

Timing, RPM, and LFT/ SFT, and other data are general pulled from the OBD2.
I don't know about your car, but mine skips 5 or more mph while accelerating and I wouldn't depend on it's timing being very useful while tuning with such large gaps in the data. Of course take all the chances you want.
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PACougar
I don't know about your car, but mine skips 5 or more mph while accelerating and I wouldn't depend on it's timing being very useful while tuning with such large gaps in the data. Of course take all the chances you want.
Something is wrong with your setup or you are logging way too many items via OBD2. You should be seeing ~ 10 data points /second which is more than enough for tuning. I have never logged MPH so it may be a function of the output speed vs.OBD2 speed.

Generally I log AIT, RPM,and timing from OBD2 and AFR from my wideband.
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Originally Posted by cij911
Something is wrong with your setup or you are logging way too many items via OBD2. You should be seeing ~ 10 data points /second which is more than enough for tuning. I have never logged MPH so it may be a function of the output speed vs.OBD2 speed.

Generally I log AIT, RPM,and timing from OBD2 and AFR from my wideband.
My RPM also has pretty big jumps to it as well. I can tell the timing is being logged slowly because I can see the gap from letting off of the throttle.
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Guys, Send Steve over at FT Performance a PM about a dashdaq, He'll hook you up!
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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I'll try it...

I gave my old obd2 scanner to my brother and was gonna pick up a new one anyway.. so i'll order this thing and post up some thoughts/faqs after i play with it. Expectations are low but for $70 as long as it functions properly as a replacement scanner i will be cool with it.
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