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Old 07-20-2012, 10:12 PM
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Dave just got done installing the Killer Chiller on the car. Still need to wrap the lines and dial in the refrigerant level. Here's a couple of pics, I'll add some of the install tomorrow.
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Wow, whats the iat like on a pull?
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Of course it depends on how long the pull is, but pulling until I hit 4th gear without meth they topped out at 125F. For those who don't know I have a 185mm lower and a smaller SC pulley.
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Are you going to run meth as well?
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wow - i gotta check this out!
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Originally Posted by Toadster
wow - i gotta check this out!

Toad you have been saying that since I put a KC on my car back in April and posted all the detailed pics on install.
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Originally Posted by PACougar
Dave just got done installing the Killer Chiller on the car. Still need to wrap the lines and dial in the refrigerant level. Here's a couple of pics, I'll add some of the install tomorrow.
Where did you mount the KC core? i put mine right behind the sonar puck behind the front grill. Did you also bypass your HE?
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Of course it depends on how long the pull is, but pulling until I hit 4th gear without meth they topped out at 125F. For those who don't know I have a 185mm lower and a smaller SC pulley.
Very nice, but i have couple questions.

How does it work in the winter time? and who tuning your car? Thanks
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Very nice, but i have couple questions.

How does it work in the winter time? and who tuning your car? Thanks
I'm curious as well - gotta watch for ice chips if it's humid outside

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Toad you have been saying that since I put a KC on my car back in April and posted all the detailed pics on install.
LOL - must be time for a meet!
Old 07-21-2012, 02:37 AM
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Are you going to run meth as well?
Yes, I have everything set up and we'll start spraying this weekend.

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wow - i gotta check this out!
Yes you do!

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Where did you mount the KC core? i put mine right behind the sonar puck behind the front grill. Did you also bypass your HE?
Same place as you. I haven't yet, but I'm going to remove the HE all together.

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Very nice, but i have couple questions.

How does it work in the winter time? and who tuning your car? Thanks
Of course I can't speak from experience yet, but I think it'll work fine in the winter. I live in Northern California and the winter weather doesn't get to cold out. Jerry does all my tuning.
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Your going to love the Meth spray, makes a big difference on boosted cars. Just be careful not to turn the Meth up too much or it can actually cause knock/retard instead!
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Originally Posted by PACougar
Of course it depends on how long the pull is, but pulling until I hit 4th gear without meth they topped out at 125F. For those who don't know I have a 185mm lower and a smaller SC pulley.
That is amazing! I am guessing you have a IC tank as well - if so, what size are you running (how much ice cold water do you have on hand) ?

Have you done more canyon type runs (repeated short bursts) to see where your AITs generally hover around ?

Regarding Meth - I hope you have a great failsafe....I use the Zeitronix (which you have) logic and it is great, but just make sure you configure the scenarios properly. (If you are new to the Zeitronix logic, PM me and I'd be happy to help.)

Off topic - Do you find the 185 + SC pulley to cause rough SC engagement ? I was told that anything bigger than 175 the engagement can be very rough.

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very nice, there are some other member also running a KC setup who have good results.
Thats right! . I love the KC.
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You have to have the ac running for this to work right? and if so would you say the parasitic loss from the condenser is worth the lower air intake temps, as compared to those of a upgraded h.e and ice box setup.

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You have to have the ac running for this to work right? and if so would you say the parasitic loss from the condenser is worth the lower air intake temps, as compared to those of a upgraded h.e and ice box setup.
Once you go WOT, the AC and KC kick off....
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Your going to love the Meth spray, makes a big difference on boosted cars. Just be careful not to turn the Meth up too much or it can actually cause knock/retard instead!
No worries this isn't my first rodeo I will be careful.

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That is amazing! I am guessing you have a IC tank as well - if so, what size are you running (how much ice cold water do you have on hand) ?

I do my IC tank is 5 gallons. I can pack about 30lbs of ice in to the tank if needed.

Have you done more canyon type runs (repeated short bursts) to see where your AITs generally hover around ?

I haven't yet, but I'm hoping the 5 gallon take once cooled will keep it solid for quite awhile.

Regarding Meth - I hope you have a great failsafe....I use the Zeitronix (which you have) logic and it is great, but just make sure you configure the scenarios properly. (If you are new to the Zeitronix logic, PM me and I'd be happy to help.)

I'm running a aquamist system and I have ran meth before, I'm thinking about a throttle interrupt triggered by the failsafe output. I might also hook up my Phormula knock detector to that as well.

Off topic - Do you find the 185 + SC pulley to cause rough SC engagement ? I was told that anything bigger than 175 the engagement can be very rough.

Yes, it is harsh! To be fair I like it, but for others I could see how they might not.


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You have to have the ac running for this to work right? and if so would you say the parasitic loss from the condenser is worth the lower air intake temps, as compared to those of a upgraded h.e and ice box setup.
cij911 is correct, once you go beyond I believe 90% TP the AC disengages.
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Wait a minute, my eyes are not very good. Did I see iat's at 59deg with 92deg outside temp?!!!! I had to cruise around in 105deg with iat's @ 160 in my cl65. Who can install this in my 65? I have a meth kit new in the box ready to install too. Also wouldn't mind an aftermarket add. HE. My car is already a 660rwhp SD 10.9 car. Somebody point me in the right direction in Cali for a good performance Benz shop. All we have out here in Vegas is people that scratch their head when they pop my hood
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Wait a minute, my eyes are not very good. Did I see iat's at 59deg with 92deg outside temp?!!!! I had to cruise around in 105deg with iat's @ 160 in my cl65. Who can install this in my 65? I have a meth kit new in the box ready to install too. Also wouldn't mind an aftermarket add. HE. My car is already a 660rwhp SD 10.9 car. Somebody point me in the right direction in Cali for a good performance Benz shop. All we have out here in Vegas is people that scratch their head when they pop my hood
My buddy Dave would be happy to do it if you come up to the Sacramento area we'll take care of you! Call Joe Kincaid at Kincaid Performance and buy a kit!
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My buddy Dave would be happy to do it if you come up to the Sacramento area we'll take care of you! Call Joe Kincaid at Kincaid Performance and buy a kit!
+1 Dave ROCKS!
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Wait a minute, my eyes are not very good. Did I see iat's at 59deg with 92deg outside temp?!!!! I had to cruise around in 105deg with iat's @ 160 in my cl65. Who can install this in my 65? I have a meth kit new in the box ready to install too. Also wouldn't mind an aftermarket add. HE. My car is already a 660rwhp SD 10.9 car. Somebody point me in the right direction in Cali for a good performance Benz shop. All we have out here in Vegas is people that scratch their head when they pop my hood
I know what you mean. Thats why I do all the work myself. But, try G & G on decatur / 15.
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I know what you mean. Thats why I do all the work myself. But, try G & G on decatur / 15.
+1, The only people that touch my vehicles are myself and my best friend/best mechanic in the world
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I know what you mean. Thats why I do all the work myself. But, try G & G on decatur / 15.
G&G installed the inter coolers and intake. They also do all my maintenance.
Great shop, but they've never heard of a Killer Chiller and have never installed meth. I've got a shop out here that did my exhaust, but he is waaay backed up.
It's kind of a waste to have a car like this when you don't have a dedicated performance shop to work on it- That's why I sold my c6zo6

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Is Kincaid offering a special GB for kits designed for the e55 ? Also, has anyone documented the proper amount of coolant that needs to be added ? Unfortunately, I believe you need STAR DAS to add the proper amount of AC coolant (R134 ? IIRC), so an independent AC is probably not going to be able to complete the install.

Has anyone installed an inline bypass thermostat to their heat exchanger, so that the water only flows through the heat exchanger if it above X degrees ?

The more I think about this setup it appears far superior to the heat exchanger and makes me think the best option would be to remove the heat exchanger altogether.

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For detailed pics go the the other planet and look for the "Any one have pics of installed Killer Chiller?" Go to page 10 and you will see my detailed install pics. This to me hands down the best way to ensure summer time high temps don't ruin any fun. I have my HE bypassed for the summer, once winter comes I will likely then bypass the KC.

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