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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Experienced E55 owners, I just tried to fire up the benz to get to my eye appt. and all I got was the car trying to turn over with no engine start up. Do I have a fuel sender issue or what? Thanks Gents! DG
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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What he said. If you want to check the fuel pump, press the shrader valve on the fuel rail. Fuel should spray out with force for 1-2 sec with the eng off. If its just a dribble it may take more investigation. Just be careful, cover it with a rag when you do it. 90% of the time, crank sensor.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Is it happening like this?:


That's what's happening to my car and I couldn't get it to pull any CEL codes, so I'm not leaning towards Crank Position Sensor anymore... having the car towed to the stealership now.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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The CPS usually fails under high heat conditions. As soon as it cools off, it will generally work properly. Try starting again after a while. If it starts no problem, chances are high it is the CPS. IT is a fairly easy DIY to replace.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle
Is it happening like this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1m4m...layer_embedded

That's what's happening to my car and I couldn't get it to pull any CEL codes, so I'm not leaning towards Crank Position Sensor anymore... having the car towed to the stealership now.
It is a little hard to hear, but it doesn't sound like the engine is cranking at all. Is that correct? If so, I doubt it is the CPS either. When my CPS failed, the engine would crank, but no attempt to fire at all and then time out. It sounded very much like a car without gas trying to start. You could hear the starter motor turn over the engine and that was it.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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It is a little hard to hear, but it doesn't sound like the engine is cranking at all. Is that correct? If so, I doubt it is the CPS either. When my CPS failed, the engine would crank, but no attempt to fire at all and then time out. It sounded very much like a car without gas trying to start. You could hear the starter motor turn over the engine and that was it.
I think I heard a faint cranking....



It is possible to have a bad CPS and not have codes, FYI.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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I think I heard a faint cranking....



It is possible to have a bad CPS and not have codes, FYI.

It does crank, it just doesn't turn over. Hmmm... I wonder if I should have tried changing the CPS before I had them tow it... Oh well I definitely hope it's the CPS and nothing more serious. My situation was weird because it literally happened an hour after I last drove the car without any signs of anything going bad.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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When my CPS was going bad it did not throw a code the first couple times it died. The third time it did.

Easy DIY, provided you don't have giant mitts (me.

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle
It does crank, it just doesn't turn over. Hmmm... I wonder if I should have tried changing the CPS before I had them tow it... Oh well I definitely hope it's the CPS and nothing more serious. My situation was weird because it literally happened an hour after I last drove the car without any signs of anything going bad.
Hot restart, sounds like a crank sensor. Open the hood to let it cool for a while, then try starting it. If it starts, replace the crank sensor
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stockC43
Hot restart, sounds like a crank sensor. Open the hood to let it cool for a while, then try starting it. If it starts, replace the crank sensor
I tried it the next day and same thing happened... We'll see what the stealership says.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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I just went ahead and bought a new CPS since they're around $45 if I remember right. Figure my cars an 03 and service history doesn't mention ever replacing it. Better safe then sorry for $45 and a few minutes work.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cal1
The CPS usually fails under high heat conditions. As soon as it cools off, it will generally work properly. Try starting again after a while. If it starts no problem, chances are high it is the CPS. IT is a fairly easy DIY to replace.
Gents! Thanks for all your comments, I let it cool down and it fired right up. However I have a check engine light on now so I take it is the CPS? dealership cost? DIY cost?

Thanks again!
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Here is a good DIY thanks to Shardul.

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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Here is a good DIY thanks to Shardul.

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Cal1 - Thanks for attaching the link bro! Just ordered part from Autohaus and will install myself.
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Cal1 - Thanks for attaching the link bro! Just ordered part from Autohaus and will install myself.
Happy to help mang! That is what this forum is all about. Thanks for posting the hot photo!
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