Slick997

10 years ahead of its time.

xpl0sive

i think the only car u can really compare to a tuned gtr would be a UGR Gallardo. I don't know what the maintenance is like on a TTG but i'm pretty sure it's much more than the GTR. I dont know how much money AMGFan has spent modding his GTR, if I were to guess I'd say he was up to $200k including the car. For that money you can buy a TTG and have some money left for maintenance. Here's an example

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNDER...item19d45a4c6b

1300hp kit on that one. $165k.
and you're driving a Lamborghini. a GTR is a great car, but at the end of the day, it's still a Nissan.

tbradley70

It's at the Dupont headquarters off of ulmerton in St Pete. I think they have a Facebook page

Slick997

Agreed, it will always be a nissan. But in my opinion the GTR is a better car. Its certainly not better looking, but i think its better in every way. UGR rides like a skateboard. I think its really preference, but i don't think the UGR has anything on the GTR except looks and it may be a bit faster in this case where talking about the Katana R1KX. Gtr is more comfortable, a better daily driver, for comfort and room, and with that kind of power the GTR's crazy computer will give u a lot more confidence. throw some nice Alcon ccx ceramic on a GTR and your good to go. Those super sports are some crazy tires i can speak to that. If you want a 1500hp car as a real driver, than i would take the GTR, if you want a car for a rocket and to go downtown and grab some girls after the track then the UGR, (Lamborghini is great for piking up stripers after there done work in Montreal). We had some good times with that spider lol.

tgoss

Most, if not all GTR owners will tell you flat out we didn't buy this ugly fat pig of a beast for its sexy lines or good looks.

All that said... I would kill most everyone for a UGR TT G....

Slick997

Mine is the UGR R8 v10
Now where talking!

BaDiNfLuEnCe55

My big issue is that they dont come traditional 6spd

jayhawkblk

This is an interesting topic. I sold my E55 a month and a half ago and I miss it dearly but it was time for a change. I am waiting till next year to pick something up. The GT-R has been on that list as well as and R8 v10 or a ZL1 camero. I am not a huge Porsche fan but the 997tt keeps entering my mind. Tal I love the car man the color combo is perfect.

xpl0sive

how can you even put a ZL1 Camaro on the same list as a GTR, R8 V10 and a 977tt. that doesnt make any sense.

zneB-sedecreM

Camaro ugh! Where is the throwup smilie?

jayhawkblk

That is because I like the car. That is why. I don't buy cars for status or to fit everyones molds. I don't race my cars so I don't care about having the fastest car just one that is fun to drive. Plus I like Detroit muscle. Granted it is not a luxuary car, but I like none the less.

AMGfan

+1 on that Detroit muscle...I'd love to get a hold of a 67-68 Camaro...in the end YOU have to like/love what you see when you walk into your garage...its an irrational feeling and one that is personal.

AND you can make almost any interior as luxurious as you want...just takes some planning and a bit of green.

xpl0sive

if you're into detroit muscle then why would you pick a ZL1 over the 2013 GT500?

TMC M5

I have $7K of performance mods (including installation) on my GT-R and it puts down 550+awhp. I am doing a small turbo upgrade next week for under $5K installed and should see another 100whp on a conservative tune (still stock tranny and engine internals otherwise could easily get another 50+awhp). I never did a baseline dyno but most would be in the 410-420awhp on a Dynojet. So for $12K I am probably up 220+awhp which isn't too bad.

Tom

e500slr

Yes as a kit it's expensive but who the hell buys a kit except people who know nothing about how to build a motor and want everything spoon fed. Look at the Kleeman packages and tell me the prices aren't just hilarious for the 55k. Packages over 10k which can be had for up to a quarter of the price. The GT-R is extremely mod friendly and is a deadly platform, the car was built for this. It has a range of complex electronics which control traction, allow for controlled yet fast driving and gear changes that leave cars behind. I hated the GT-R when it came out simply because it was destroying too many cars for too little of a price but now I've embraced it and think it's an automotive marvel. You can build a GT-R to those power levels for much less of you can go get a "package" for 15k and get a "carbon intake"

e500slr

Exactly, I don't know where 15k came from but I've personally seen GT-Rs built to those power levels for much less. It just depends on how much work you're doing yourself or just handing it in and getting a kit put in. Alot of the cost is labor and people don't wanna go and source parts and do installations themselves so they throw 15k and just pick it up and sometimes even with good reason since some of the companies give warranty but again look at the Kleeman packages for the 55k, they're just too funny or Renntech's parts like the "carbon airbox"

gaspam

it comes from switzer and here it is at vivdracing for almost 17K

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/s...FQjc4AodY2AAwA

never the less, even piecing it together for 12K is still a far cry from your original statement of "Give the GT-R 700hp, which wouldn't take much work or money"

if 12K isnt much to you then you should buy the new weistec blower, rebuild your engine and tranny maybe add a small nos shot and you can be at 800+ hp

tgoss

Those of us that choose to put "expensive" or "overpriced" on our cars do this for the service, research and development those companies provide. It's a piece of mind knowing that if something were to fail on my car I have 2 companies that are very trusted in the GT-R to help me through the process of getting the car back up and running.

Put together a mutt kit with some tuner and do the work yourself.... well then it may just end up costing you as much in the end as my "kit" car.

That and seeing other parts out there... The fit and finish of the equipment on my car is better in every way hands down.

But that being said, I'll be the first to tell you I spoil myself and it truly isn't necessary.

TMC M5

My $12K set up with the upgraded turbos is VERY conservative and would likely translate to 750hp at the crank (800+ if I got more aggressive on the tune). If 700hp at the crank was a target I could have accomplished that with just an additional $300 E85 tune and $300 upgraded fuel pumps...so figure $8K for 600+awhp or roughly 700 crank hp. I know GT-R owners who sourced their parts for much cheaper and got the same results for under $6K.

gaspam

your missing the point i was making to the person that wrote "Give the GT-R 700hp, which wouldn't take much work or money"

if 6k- 12k isnt much money and basically a free power mod, then feel free to throw that almost free money my way i can get another almost FREE new motorcycle then :P

TMC M5

For someone who has mods on an E55 and Audi S4 you should see that the bang-for-buck on the GT-R is way better than on some other cars (not saying it is the cheapest). Sure $6-$12K isn't exactly chump change....but let's compare that to the costs of modding an E55.

Eurocharged pulley, headers, TB, intake, cooling, injectors and tune (Stage 3) will set you back $7K+ before labor. They claim an increase of 173hp at the crank. The GT-R's full bolt on set up (full exhaust, injectors, turbo inlets, intake, fuel pumps and E85 tune) would be under $7K in actual parts and get you a 250hp increase at the crank. So in comparison to an E55 and many other high performance cars, it is relatively cheap.

Also, my costs would have been less had I done everything at once and not paid for duplicative labor and would have likely been given more of a discount on a package deal (you live and you learn).

e55amgrocket

Or compare all that to a newer diesel truck. Take a 6.4L ford, add a spartan tuner,intake,exhaust and EGR delete and you have an extra 350hp(dyno proven) and A proven 700ft/lbs of torque over stock. Trucks usually dyno 575/1200 after the tune. There's always a better and cheaper way to mod but it all depends on what you want in the end. You could put a 100 shot on a stock E55 and make the same as most highly modded E55's for $500 but that's a ticking time bomb.

gaspam

i totally understand the bang for the buck and agree the GTR is high bang for buck car.

and lol you forgot the cost of a 2009 used GTR is about 40K more than a 06 e55

so 2009 GTR = 60K+12K mods = 72K for 700HP = $102.85 per HP

my audi was 5K and mods were about 10K = 15K for 500hp = $30 per HP

e55 was 25K+ 4k mods = 29K for 500hp = $58 per HP

bang for buck the GTR would cost me minimum 77% more $ per HP for my e55 and cost me 243% more $ per HP than my audi....

but still, that is not my point lol... my point is if $12K is "cheaply done" according to other poster then he should drop $12k into his e55 and have a monster now that the new blowers are coming out.... i mean since $12K is nothing, why not ?

i am totally all for the GTR and go nothing against it... i just think its pretty silly for other guy to say ""Give the GT-R 700hp, which wouldn't take much work or money"... kinda comes off as rich kid trust fund baby talk

TMC M5

I hear you...but think of it like this:

Mods to get to 600whp ($8K) / Used GT-R ($60K) = 15% of Value

Mods to get to 500whp ($4K) / Used E55 ($25K) = 16% of Value

Mods to get to 500whp ($10K) / Price of Audi S4 ($5K) = 200% of Value

Also, so far the GT-R's value has stayed really strong (probably due to the HUGE price increases on newer models). I bought my car used 2 years ago and could likely sell it for as much I paid while putting 10K miles on it. So for me it doesn't hurt as much putting money into it (as opposed to my old CL65).

Jakpro1

Oh Aventador, someday you WILL BE MINE!!! Just gotta wait 10 years for depreciation.