Wow just went at it with a S/C pontiac G8
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Yeah G8's are beautiful cars and you can pick up nice used one, low miles for about $25K. They look alot like the Dodge Charger SRT-8 which is one of the most aggressive bad *** looking cars out there. (In my humble opinion)
If I was looking for a second car, either a G8 or SRT-8 would do nicely! Again you can pick up a used low mileage version of each one for about $25K.
If I was looking for a second car, either a G8 or SRT-8 would do nicely! Again you can pick up a used low mileage version of each one for about $25K.
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When I hit the track last year, there was a G8 that was the fastest non-track car.... Horrible track prep and he kept running 11.8's.... I was hitting 12.0.... ZL 585 was hitting 12.3.... Just to give you an idea. I don't know if he was charged, but he was damn fast.
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Best thing about this forum is that every car make and model gets the respect it deserves.
If someone started this exact thread on E46Fanatics, it would be all "Yeah crushed that 'Murican POS ///Lol"
If someone started this exact thread on E46Fanatics, it would be all "Yeah crushed that 'Murican POS ///Lol"
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I'm a huge fan of the LSX based engines which should be obvious by my garage pictures here. They are cheap, reliable, and can make some big power without much money. Of course those cars are completely different than an AMG car. AMG will make big power and torque and then take you on a comfortable cross country trip which most big horsepower LSX vehicles are not comfortable for those trips. (Aside from the new CTS-V's at least)
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I agree completely with this point. I love that everyone here can respect other cars even if they personally don't care for them or if they aren't their style.
I'm a huge fan of the LSX based engines which should be obvious by my garage pictures here. They are cheap, reliable, and can make some big power without much money. Of course those cars are completely different than an AMG car. AMG will make big power and torque and then take you on a comfortable cross country trip which most big horsepower LSX vehicles are not comfortable for those trips. (Aside from the new CTS-V's at least)
I'm a huge fan of the LSX based engines which should be obvious by my garage pictures here. They are cheap, reliable, and can make some big power without much money. Of course those cars are completely different than an AMG car. AMG will make big power and torque and then take you on a comfortable cross country trip which most big horsepower LSX vehicles are not comfortable for those trips. (Aside from the new CTS-V's at least)
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That being said my first true dream car when i was in my teens and early 20's was a SS Camaro 98 to 02 i belive but i would definitly want to get one down the road. That was a true late 90's 2000+ muscle car. although the new camaro is nice looks bulky and slow. Not like a true muscle car imo.
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I think that the Pontiac and Dodge pictured in this tread are extremely cheap looking. Nothing special about them. Their design and quality are mediocre, at best. TBH, these are overpriced solutions to get a "cheap" car made to run fast. For $25K, you could get a Civic and bolt so many things on, and absolutely rape any G8 or Charger.
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I think that the Pontiac and Dodge pictured in this tread are extremely cheap looking. Nothing special about them. Their design and quality are mediocre, at best. TBH, these are overpriced solutions to get a "cheap" car made to run fast. For $25K, you could get a Civic and bolt so many things on, and absolutely rape any G8 or Charger.
This?
Or this?
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GM has never been strong on interiors, never have been known for them and nothing is changing that anytime soon. Even the Caddi interiors are lacking once you get to the details. One does not buy a GM vehicle for interior design/function alone.
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I LOVE the CTS interior...one of the very few GM interiors which I think looks even better than some BMW/BENZ interiors. But other than that, you're pretty much correct.
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Im not a fan of the Caddy interior and if youre 6'0"+ you wont fit in the rear very comfortably
That said, the civic doesnt belong in the comparison.
The new Holden upgraded its interior finally...
Take a look at HSVs history
http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/see/ClassicList.aspx
That said, the civic doesnt belong in the comparison.
The new Holden upgraded its interior finally...
Take a look at HSVs history
http://www.hsv.com.au/e3/see/ClassicList.aspx
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So bottom line-GM interiors is akin to a blond model with a hairy ***. No comment on the Civic as that would be silly to even discuss or defend, not sure why you even responded to that guy.
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People are talking about buying these cars and modding them for low-budget thrills. What I'm saying is buy a 97 Civic (or a Talon, Eclipse, whatever), which will be extremely cheap and mod it to death. You can make it a 9-10 second car for a VERY low cost. I would never consider a Pontiac or Dodge (unless I need a pickup). I just wanted to state that both the Charger and G8 are second rate cars in every category (looks, performance, quality, interior, safety, prestige etc...) especially when compared to an AMG Mercedes-Benz. I doubt anyone here with an AMG would seriously debate that. I will admit that a G8 or SRT Charger is obviously a better car than a 97 Honda Civic, but if the topic here is just to have a faster automobile, you can make the Civic much faster for much cheaper is all... It isn't always about the speed, to me at least, it's how you get there as well.
If you want to have a fast car and mod it, and that's the main purpose of your purchase, just saying there are far better and cheaper cars to obtain this goal. The Pontiac is in no way a good looking car, exterior and/or interior wise in my opinion. Whenever I do see one on the road, it never does anything for me. But it's not the worst car in the world either. IDK, I guess I just find it weird to compare a G8 to any AMG, besides maybe a C32.
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Backwards-word-guy, you really need to get some perspective here. Look up Holden (who made the G8) before you make yourself look any sillier.
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You have me all wrong here.
People are talking about buying these cars and modding them for low-budget thrills. What I'm saying is buy a 97 Civic (or a Talon, Eclipse, whatever), which will be extremely cheap and mod it to death. You can make it a 9-10 second car for a VERY low cost. I would never consider a Pontiac or Dodge (unless I need a pickup). I just wanted to state that both the Charger and G8 are second rate cars in every category (looks, performance, quality, interior, safety, prestige etc...) especially when compared to an AMG Mercedes-Benz. I doubt anyone here with an AMG would seriously debate that. I will admit that a G8 or SRT Charger is obviously a better car than a 97 Honda Civic, but if the topic here is just to have a faster automobile, you can make the Civic much faster for much cheaper is all... It isn't always about the speed, to me at least, it's how you get there as well.
If you want to have a fast car and mod it, and that's the main purpose of your purchase, just saying there are far better and cheaper cars to obtain this goal. The Pontiac is in no way a good looking car, exterior and/or interior wise in my opinion. Whenever I do see one on the road, it never does anything for me. But it's not the worst car in the world either. IDK, I guess I just find it weird to compare a G8 to any AMG, besides maybe a C32.
People are talking about buying these cars and modding them for low-budget thrills. What I'm saying is buy a 97 Civic (or a Talon, Eclipse, whatever), which will be extremely cheap and mod it to death. You can make it a 9-10 second car for a VERY low cost. I would never consider a Pontiac or Dodge (unless I need a pickup). I just wanted to state that both the Charger and G8 are second rate cars in every category (looks, performance, quality, interior, safety, prestige etc...) especially when compared to an AMG Mercedes-Benz. I doubt anyone here with an AMG would seriously debate that. I will admit that a G8 or SRT Charger is obviously a better car than a 97 Honda Civic, but if the topic here is just to have a faster automobile, you can make the Civic much faster for much cheaper is all... It isn't always about the speed, to me at least, it's how you get there as well.
If you want to have a fast car and mod it, and that's the main purpose of your purchase, just saying there are far better and cheaper cars to obtain this goal. The Pontiac is in no way a good looking car, exterior and/or interior wise in my opinion. Whenever I do see one on the road, it never does anything for me. But it's not the worst car in the world either. IDK, I guess I just find it weird to compare a G8 to any AMG, besides maybe a C32.
I can take that comment and say the same the about a late 80s early 90s VR6 VW. Those things can be modded out crazy and still whoop the jap cars.
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You'll never see an S Class with the Chrylser star on the bonnet. The styling isn't that great, the hood is the best thing it has going for it. Though if I had to choose, I'd get a Holden, as you never seen a Holden in the U States. They put a great sized, (Corvette) 415HP motor for the top of the range GXP model, but they put that motor in so many different GM chasis, and it's always quick. They put the same engine in the Trailblazer SS, but it definitely is not the SUV that I want to buy (G65 )
Anyway - To sit and drive everyday, the interior resembles a Nissan with the button layout, but build quality isn't up to par with Nissan.
I just don't understand why to you I look "silly" or you feel I don't have enough perspective sir. I know a guy who had one, I've been in cars when friends raced them, seen them driving around (GTs usually in that bright red). I can't say I'm a fan. It's just a brash car for no reason. I'll say this, they were improving vastly towards the end.
The Civic was just to say that on eBay there's a G8 GXP for $33,000. With the thousands for proper modifying parts and installation, your well over 40K$....Do you know how fast you can make a 97 Civic with $40,000
For the money to buy a G8 GT, and hook it up for the sole purpose to make it go fast - There are better, cheaper cars to do that with and get much faster results is all.
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An could you imagine what I could do with $40K with a toyota starlet?
What's your point? A Civic with $40K into it will be a very fast civic, but it'll still be an econobox. We aren't talking about the G8 being the fastest car on earth or anything...but it's a great band for the buck sedan that can be made very powerful and be a comfortable daily driver.
Please, apples to apples. Where does the Civic even fall into this topic?
What's your point? A Civic with $40K into it will be a very fast civic, but it'll still be an econobox. We aren't talking about the G8 being the fastest car on earth or anything...but it's a great band for the buck sedan that can be made very powerful and be a comfortable daily driver.
Please, apples to apples. Where does the Civic even fall into this topic?
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all right! I think that simgle malt scotch (did I speel that right?) is starting to talk for me just a bit, but :"Guy with the head in the shape of a cylinder" just made me laugh! what was the topic of the thread again?
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Moose you better watch your *** or should i say face your in or near MIAMI no? lol j.k.