--my first time at the track :) lots of fun--
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--my first time at the track :) lots of fun--
Well today was fixxfest and track day as well, so I thought id try it out.. why not
Had the pleassure of meeting two board members, awsome fellas and saw some amazing rides...
I ran with street tires, it was hot as hell today easily over 75 degrees but for doing it first time ever i was happy.. smoked 335is m3s and lots more lol
Am excited to get a fresh dyno tune to see how I do next time.. plus doing the split cooling
Had the pleassure of meeting two board members, awsome fellas and saw some amazing rides...
I ran with street tires, it was hot as hell today easily over 75 degrees but for doing it first time ever i was happy.. smoked 335is m3s and lots more lol
Am excited to get a fresh dyno tune to see how I do next time.. plus doing the split cooling
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Congratulations, with just some practice you'll be hitting 11's in no time as the power is there.
Now the addiction of racing has taken hold of you. Life will never be the same again, LOL.
Now the addiction of racing has taken hold of you. Life will never be the same again, LOL.
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Thx man... yah first try i was nervous my heart was beating fast lol than launches werent good (need practic) but after that I couldn't wait to go again and again
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Work on your launch and you'll have an 11 second car easily. I managed a 1.8 60' time with oem potenza's on my cls55.
If I drove an e55, I would choose yours. Very clean looking car.
If I drove an e55, I would choose yours. Very clean looking car.
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This place is a joke.
Nice meeting you out there, our trap speeds are basically identical, amazing we have the same mods and tunes, other than your exhaust from the headers back...I trapped 116 and ran 12.0 , the difference was my drag radials or else we'd be the same. The track condition deteriorated as the afternoon went by; and the weather got hotter and hotter, and never seemed to cool down even at 5pm..I am sure it was close to 85F today. They stopped cleaning and spraying VHT around 3pm like they were earlier and my launch technique no longer worked.
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I had the most mods (and biggest pulley) and trapped the slowest by a good margin on every run but one I am really starting to hate this 178 pulley more and more because the weather is never good for it. I was trapping 110-112 leaving it in drive (tcu tune makes car shift at 6700) then did one run in manual mode shifting at 6000-6200rpm and trapped 115.
Times were from 12.2-12.5 I believe. And the worst part was I had drag radials on (255/50/16 Mickey Thompsons) which did not work for ****. I tried 20psi down to 16psi and did a small burnout to a bigger one and could not hook at all. I gave it even close to full throttle off the line it instantly spun and then shifted to 2nd when I let off. Doing 2.0 60fts, it was like I was running regular steet tires. I actually threw my 20s back on to do a pass to see what happened but they closed the staging lanes while I was getting pics taken of the car.
Was a rough day for me topped off with a problem/scare on my way home. Drove 1.5-2 hours north to Gainesville and stopped to visit some family and eat dinner. Went to leave at around 10pm I believe and car would not start. Cranked and almost ran a few times, others just crank and nothing. Just replaced crank position sensor last night so knew it wasn't that. Checked fuel pump fuse, it was good. Wasn't completely sure about the fuel pump relay so did some quick searcing on the forum which by the way we need better threads on this. I located 2 relays on passenger side trunk behind liner, no idea which was which. Both relays and sockets looked good, not melted like some people have said they had happen. Confused at this point what is wrong
Decided to swap the relays with each other and the car fired up, swapped them back and no go, swapped them again and it fired up so drove it home taking it easy. Now I just need to get a new relay to replace one of those that is bad.
And if anyone knows, are both of those to run fuel pumps or only one of them? Not sure if I am running on one pump right now or what, but the car ran for the 1.5 hour trip home which I got in at about 1:30am. Fun stuff
Times were from 12.2-12.5 I believe. And the worst part was I had drag radials on (255/50/16 Mickey Thompsons) which did not work for ****. I tried 20psi down to 16psi and did a small burnout to a bigger one and could not hook at all. I gave it even close to full throttle off the line it instantly spun and then shifted to 2nd when I let off. Doing 2.0 60fts, it was like I was running regular steet tires. I actually threw my 20s back on to do a pass to see what happened but they closed the staging lanes while I was getting pics taken of the car.
Was a rough day for me topped off with a problem/scare on my way home. Drove 1.5-2 hours north to Gainesville and stopped to visit some family and eat dinner. Went to leave at around 10pm I believe and car would not start. Cranked and almost ran a few times, others just crank and nothing. Just replaced crank position sensor last night so knew it wasn't that. Checked fuel pump fuse, it was good. Wasn't completely sure about the fuel pump relay so did some quick searcing on the forum which by the way we need better threads on this. I located 2 relays on passenger side trunk behind liner, no idea which was which. Both relays and sockets looked good, not melted like some people have said they had happen. Confused at this point what is wrong
Decided to swap the relays with each other and the car fired up, swapped them back and no go, swapped them again and it fired up so drove it home taking it easy. Now I just need to get a new relay to replace one of those that is bad.
And if anyone knows, are both of those to run fuel pumps or only one of them? Not sure if I am running on one pump right now or what, but the car ran for the 1.5 hour trip home which I got in at about 1:30am. Fun stuff
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I had the most mods (and biggest pulley) and trapped the slowest by a good margin on every run but one I am really starting to hate this 178 pulley more and more because the weather is never good for it. I was trapping 110-112 leaving it in drive (tcu tune makes car shift at 6700) then did one run in manual mode shifting at 6000-6200rpm and trapped 115.
Times were from 12.2-12.5 I believe. And the worst part was I had drag radials on (255/50/16 Mickey Thompsons) which did not work for ****. I tried 20psi down to 16psi and did a small burnout to a bigger one and could not hook at all. I gave it even close to full throttle off the line it instantly spun and then shifted to 2nd when I let off. Doing 2.0 60fts, it was like I was running regular steet tires. I actually threw my 20s back on to do a pass to see what happened but they closed the staging lanes while I was getting pics taken of the car.
Was a rough day for me topped off with a problem/scare on my way home. Drove 1.5-2 hours north to Gainesville and stopped to visit some family and eat dinner. Went to leave at around 10pm I believe and car would not start. Cranked and almost ran a few times, others just crank and nothing. Just replaced crank position sensor last night so knew it wasn't that. Checked fuel pump fuse, it was good. Wasn't completely sure about the fuel pump relay so did some quick searcing on the forum which by the way we need better threads on this. I located 2 relays on passenger side trunk behind liner, no idea which was which. Both relays and sockets looked good, not melted like some people have said they had happen. Confused at this point what is wrong
Decided to swap the relays with each other and the car fired up, swapped them back and no go, swapped them again and it fired up so drove it home taking it easy. Now I just need to get a new relay to replace one of those that is bad.
And if anyone knows, are both of those to run fuel pumps or only one of them? Not sure if I am running on one pump right now or what, but the car ran for the 1.5 hour trip home which I got in at about 1:30am. Fun stuff
Times were from 12.2-12.5 I believe. And the worst part was I had drag radials on (255/50/16 Mickey Thompsons) which did not work for ****. I tried 20psi down to 16psi and did a small burnout to a bigger one and could not hook at all. I gave it even close to full throttle off the line it instantly spun and then shifted to 2nd when I let off. Doing 2.0 60fts, it was like I was running regular steet tires. I actually threw my 20s back on to do a pass to see what happened but they closed the staging lanes while I was getting pics taken of the car.
Was a rough day for me topped off with a problem/scare on my way home. Drove 1.5-2 hours north to Gainesville and stopped to visit some family and eat dinner. Went to leave at around 10pm I believe and car would not start. Cranked and almost ran a few times, others just crank and nothing. Just replaced crank position sensor last night so knew it wasn't that. Checked fuel pump fuse, it was good. Wasn't completely sure about the fuel pump relay so did some quick searcing on the forum which by the way we need better threads on this. I located 2 relays on passenger side trunk behind liner, no idea which was which. Both relays and sockets looked good, not melted like some people have said they had happen. Confused at this point what is wrong
Decided to swap the relays with each other and the car fired up, swapped them back and no go, swapped them again and it fired up so drove it home taking it easy. Now I just need to get a new relay to replace one of those that is bad.
And if anyone knows, are both of those to run fuel pumps or only one of them? Not sure if I am running on one pump right now or what, but the car ran for the 1.5 hour trip home which I got in at about 1:30am. Fun stuff
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Mine is a 2005.
My exact runs were.
3pm
1.97 60
12.28 @ 111.8
3:07pm
1.90 60ft
12.45 @ 110.6
4:37pm (started to let car sit to get cool but then drove it and then parked again so this wasn't a cool pass)
2.10 60ft
12.53 @ 110.68
4:42pm
2.02 60ft
12.31 @ 115.5 and this run was in manual mode shifting at around 6000rpm, all other runs were shifting at 6700 with the tcu tune controlling the shifts in S mode.
Every single run done on MT drag radials and getting zero traction off the line even when not completely flooring it like I would with street tires.
I don't understand why my car loses so much power one day from the next because like in my sig the car has ran in the 11s comfortably and has several 11.8 range passes on 19" wheels with street tires with the best of 11.69 and several traps in 118-120 range also. These were all with weather in the llow 60s range to low 70s on different track visits.
My exact runs were.
3pm
1.97 60
12.28 @ 111.8
3:07pm
1.90 60ft
12.45 @ 110.6
4:37pm (started to let car sit to get cool but then drove it and then parked again so this wasn't a cool pass)
2.10 60ft
12.53 @ 110.68
4:42pm
2.02 60ft
12.31 @ 115.5 and this run was in manual mode shifting at around 6000rpm, all other runs were shifting at 6700 with the tcu tune controlling the shifts in S mode.
Every single run done on MT drag radials and getting zero traction off the line even when not completely flooring it like I would with street tires.
I don't understand why my car loses so much power one day from the next because like in my sig the car has ran in the 11s comfortably and has several 11.8 range passes on 19" wheels with street tires with the best of 11.69 and several traps in 118-120 range also. These were all with weather in the llow 60s range to low 70s on different track visits.
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David,
I saw your car put down over 500hp to the wheels???!!!!!
You also have a nice cooling set up. Is that pulley generating that much heat or do you think you have a bad IC pump?
I saw your car put down over 500hp to the wheels???!!!!!
You also have a nice cooling set up. Is that pulley generating that much heat or do you think you have a bad IC pump?
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The pump is flowing, I have that underood tank I built which you can take the cap off and see tons of water flow back in to it since the pump is hooked up to always run.
The car has dynoed 500 + or - a few on 2 different dyno jets, one in Miami where you were and also here in Jacksonville, so that makes it more frustrating not knowing why it acts like this. Then when there are others who say they have ran at the track in warm weather and did pretty good (trapping 118-120) with a similar pulley and mods to me but then here I far off that but on another day and slightly cooler weather running 118-120.
The car has dynoed 500 + or - a few on 2 different dyno jets, one in Miami where you were and also here in Jacksonville, so that makes it more frustrating not knowing why it acts like this. Then when there are others who say they have ran at the track in warm weather and did pretty good (trapping 118-120) with a similar pulley and mods to me but then here I far off that but on another day and slightly cooler weather running 118-120.
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The pump is flowing, I have that underood tank I built which you can take the cap off and see tons of water flow back in to it since the pump is hooked up to always run.
The car has dynoed 500 + or - a few on 2 different dyno jets, one in Miami where you were and also here in Jacksonville, so that makes it more frustrating not knowing why it acts like this. Then when there are others who say they have ran at the track in warm weather and did pretty good (trapping 118-120) with a similar pulley and mods to me but then here I far off that but on another day and slightly cooler weather running 118-120.
The car has dynoed 500 + or - a few on 2 different dyno jets, one in Miami where you were and also here in Jacksonville, so that makes it more frustrating not knowing why it acts like this. Then when there are others who say they have ran at the track in warm weather and did pretty good (trapping 118-120) with a similar pulley and mods to me but then here I far off that but on another day and slightly cooler weather running 118-120.
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Why dont you run ice in the engine bay tank? Especially since you are in FL, I would go to a smaller pulley.. Motorkas has run an 11.2 over 120 mph with a 168mm pulley so it is still making good power even though he doesnt have a huge pulley..
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Were you logging your runs ? I hate to sound like a broken horse, but if it is the same tune as before, your are either running too lean, and the car was pulling timing and bleeding boost, or you are likely running too rich. Without logs, it is impossible to know what is wrong....
The tune making me shift so much later (6700rpm) I believe kills me because my power graph (dyno) would fall off after 6000 and me not only running the car when it is cold and with no big tank full of ice hurts me.
As for running ice in my little 1.5 gallon tank, I have done that before. I don't think I should need to make the car completely cooled off and then also fill up a tank with ice to make the car go reasonably fast for one glory run. It just seems crazy that the car has such a huge shift in performance.
I guess I need to get some kind of logger and see what the intake temps look like and then also timing pull or even boost also.
I really do think I should get a smaller pulley though, just haven't done it yet.
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