cij911

Your car does not have positive camber per your spec sheet....

djrabbi

Does everything else look fine? I don't know why that wheel sits like /

I guess it is a control arm

cij911

Seriously ??? The spec sheet shows you have negative camber (which it should) and is likely higher than ideal because your car is lower than factory settings.

Negative camber means the top of your tire is inward compared to the bottom - e.g. looking from behind your car the tires should look like this :
Left side Right Side
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Positive camber would indicate a problem with your suspension and would have shown differently on your spec sheet and would look like this from the rear :

Left side Right Side
\\\\\\ //////

djrabbi

I know what you are saying but left side sits straight and right side doesn't.

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So I assume now it is something with suspension such as a control arm or a trailing arm?

cij911

Is this before or after your alignment (specs you posted) ? If after, then you likely hit a curb and will need to bring it back in to the dealer....I don't know the CLS suspension, but the e55 rear suspension is not adjustable.

djrabbi

CLS and E have same suspension. It didn't sit like this before my alignment. After getting the alignment it started to sit all retarded.

OCKlasse

Often times the alignment machines do not get recalibrated, which makes the numbers appear accurate, but in reality, your alignment can be completely off. This is why I only get my alignments done the old fashion way...with string and math.

djrabbi

So should I recalibrate it with star and get it realigned again? MB said we can align lowered cars no problem but maybe they lied thinking they can? It sort of vibrates over 60MPH, which is my biggest concern.

cij911

The rear is not adjustable, so if you lower the car the rear will have more negative camber (similar to what your specs showed).

If after the alignment, your one side is actually positive camber, then something has been damaged and you should take it back to the dealer for an inspection.

As to alignment machines being off, that is not an issue ....

djrabbi

Hehe I meant them telling me they can align lowered cars.

I asked MB when they said they couldn't align the left side so I asked what is the problem? He is like I don't know and shrugged his shoulders.

OCKlasse

If you say so. I've never had a good alignment from countless places I've gone to with the "nice" machines. They always eff up my toe

djrabbi

Honestly I can care less if my wheel stands retarded as long it isn't abnormal wear but the vibrating is annoying after a certain speed

cij911

Ughhhh...this thread is about CAMBER, not toe. Toe is only adjustable in the front and if not done by someone properly trained, and methodical, no matter how good the machine the outcome will not be good.

Camber is not adjustable on our cars, with the exception of using the factory camber bolt, and this does make a huge change.

For the OP's case, the readings show negative camber (in a range common for lowered cars), yet he claims the car has positive camber on one side. The only way this is possible is something bent or broken on the suspension, post alignment.

DONE.

djrabbi

Boom! lol

So are my specs good otherwise?

cij911

Damn dude, did you even bother to read the report ??? Red is out of spec.

Your camber is too negative (per the sheet) because you have it lowered. The only fix is either a camber kit, install coilovers, or raise the car back up a bit. IMHO anything more than -1.5 of camber will exacerbate inside tire wear.

Furthermore, your toe is bad. I have no idea why they could not get this better, but likely just a lazy technician. Bad toe will also ruin tire wear.

If this were my car, I would raise the car a bit (almost back to stock levels), re-check camber and try to adjust toe. I also suspect the car's rear suspension is tweaked due to hitting a curb (but I won't say why....).

djrabbi

That is why I have you guys to tell me what to do. DUH!

Well it is back to stock height since it is "winter" mode so let's see this time around.

OCKlasse

Or the calibration is off on the alignment machine Jesus, chill out.

I know camber is not adjustable, thanks.

FinanceMike

You're alignment is all out of whack.

I have the same car, lowered with STAR. Benz was able to get me pretty close to spec with some additional toe bolts. Have them set the toe as close to zero as possible. Mine is about -.05 on each side. I get great wear even with over -1.5 degree of camber.

rchase

your vibration is going to be A, bent rim or B, out of balance. Those A/S are decent tires but they are also notorious for radial pull. Even if your car is in spec those tires will cause a mild left or right pull

djrabbi

I raised it to stock height, most of the vibration is gone but still will go to get wheels balanced

djrabbi

Took it to the speed shop and the reason why it still shimers is that I need all ball joints in the front but no idea why they couldn't do the rear. They didn't want to do alignment as I would have to do it again after replacements