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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Started some light mods today with Bruce TT Motorsports

Bruce is a great guy and very passionate about his work. Really seems like he knows his stuff. I had him do a tune, k&n filters, an inlet tube replacement and allowed more air to get into the engine. It really seemed to help as I went there with my buddy and nailed it from 40mph and 70mph and returning home I did the same exact thing and we both felt that there was a noticable difference. I did it from those speeds because at 40 mph it is in a dead spot (wont kick down) of I think 3rd gear 3 or 4k rpm's I believe and 70mph is at like 6k rpm in same gear and it does kick down. Anyway, not exactly sure of what gear and rpm but you get my drift. I just wanted to know the low end feeling and high rpm feeling and we both noticed differences. I will debate on how far I want to go with this car depending on whether or not I will wait to find the car I really want or just go ahead and do a few more things to this one. Thanks all for the heads up about Bruce and I highly recommend him!
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Congrats! Bruce is a solid dude.
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Who does his tuning
probbably OE
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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Who does his tuning
Call him and ask him.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Call him and ask him.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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manuyc: How on earth would I know where he gets his tune from? There isn't a better response then what you replied....DITTO...
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and light mods with Bruce? Those words just don't add up lol...

Bruce is good people and will take great care of ya!!!
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Glad to hear you made it out to Bruce, and thats a great start - Most people will suggest a pulley next, but I would suggest headers if you want to stay "mild" or light mods.
I agree with Jerry Light mods and Bruce don't belong in the same sentence . . .

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Glad to hear you made it out to Bruce, and thats a great start - Most people will suggest a pulley next, but I would suggest headers if you want to stay "mild" or light mods.
I agree with Jerry Light mods and Bruce don't belong in the same sentance . . .
Yep.

I think most people in retrospect agree that headers should be one of the first mods... but I guess the seduction of "easy" HP from a pulley swap usually is too hard to resist.

Headers can be pretty labor intensive to install and there's a decent amount of effort involved to seamlessly integrate the rest of the exhaust to them without creating new choke points. So I guess ultimately, for the total cost of the installation vs. the power increase it's not the most "economical" way to add HP to these cars. It does seem to add power without adding more HEAT, so unlike a pulley that typically leads to cooling changes (adding to the overall cost) it's one of the few mods that can truly be added without leading to additional "extra" changes due to high IATs, etc.

Good call going with TTM.... you are in good hands. Be sure to ask him for one of his famous "thrill rides" if you get the chance. I think I was smiling for 2 weeks after he took me out in his sled and showed me what "real" power feels like.


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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 01:22 PM
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When you get out of the "light mods" and really go for it, talk to him about his cooling system, it's pretty cool, and on these cars keeping the IAT's down is where you will find Real power... Good luck and have fun...
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Yep.

I think most people in retrospect agree that headers should be one of the first mods... but I guess the seduction of "easy" HP from a pulley swap usually is too hard to resist.

Headers can be pretty labor intensive to install and there's a decent amount of effort involved to seamlessly integrate the rest of the exhaust to them without creating new choke points. So I guess ultimately, for the total cost of the installation vs. the power increase it's not the most "economical" way to add HP to these cars. It does seem to add power without adding more HEAT, so unlike a pulley that typically leads to cooling changes (adding to the overall cost) it's one of the few mods that can truly be added without leading to additional "extra" changes due to high IATs, etc.

Good call going with TTM.... you are in good hands. Be sure to ask him for one of his famous "thrill rides" if you get the chance. I think I was smiling for 2 weeks after he took me out in his sled and showed me what "real" power feels like.


-G
I am with ya on the headers move! That's what I thought I might do because of the heat soak from the mani's. Don't think I will do a pulley because I do not want to break anything. As little as I will drive it, it will feel fast everytime! lol Honestly, I am just not into the really fast stuff anymore but have enjoyed the 70mph punch the last couple of days. I have driven it more than usual since my pickup (office and work vehicle) is still attached to my trailer from the atlantic city car auction from the weekend, so it's been fun the last few days.

As far as going with Bruce, it wasn't my call initially, it was you guys! Once you meet Bruce you know that he is the guy you want to work on your car. So, it is you guys that get the 'GOOD CALL' and I thank you all!

Silverstreak: I will mention the cooling thing to Bruce but he did already explain the headers as far as cooling. Like I mentioned though, not looking to do too much so keeping it cooler may be the only thing I will do so I will ask him about it.

P.S. How about that retard? lmao...no names!
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One more bit of advise - If you do a set of headers replace the motor mounts. A lot easier to do them at the same time, a will be a biieeeotch to do them after the headers are on the car.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kompressede
One more bit of advise - If you do a set of headers replace the motor mounts. A lot easier to do them at the same time, a will be a biieeeotch to do them after the headers are on the car.
I had them done the second day I got the car...we did them ourselves.
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Ah good for you on the motor mounts. Did you sell/buy anything in AC?
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Ah good for you on the motor mounts. Did you sell/buy anything in AC?
The auction was rather weak and honestly...I drank and gambled more then I looked for cars! lol I was close to buying a couple but just couldn't meet on a price. The car I brought was more of an attraction getter with a billboard of 6 other cars on it. I brought my 1960 nomad which was priced very high as I really do not want to sell it. Long story short...I didn't work too hard! I have englishtown coming up soon and carlisle right after that, those meets are when I do a lot of biz.

As far as gambling...I was down a ton the first two days and came back to come home winning $900 after all was said and done. As far as drinking...I probably drank $2000 worth of alchohol! lmao
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Light Mods... Good luck!! Can't be done!! Whats the old saying?

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Make sure you get the Throttle body from Bruce.
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Make sure you get the Throttle body from Bruce.
My experience in the past is that throttle body is best used when you need a lot more fuel. It didn't help others on other cars too much so I never messed with throttle bodies. I am not sure exactly when a bigger throttle body would come into play on these cars but I am probably not going to do enough stuff to really need a bigger throttle body...just my thoughts. Any feedback is welcomed on this subject. I am probably only going to look to remove some weight if possible without interupting the integrity of the car (stuff that is not noticed anywhere) and possibly do headers for the heat issues and a couple of other minor tricks if there are any.
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I just got my car back today, and let me tell you she is as fun as she has EVER been.. Did the TTM 82 ported polished 82 TB, looped rail, 550 inj, quaiffe LSD, smaller SC pulley, belt wrap kit, split cooling, EC tune/TCU tune.. Woah thats alot.. TB definitely makes a difference Especially with headers.. If you do long tubes Seriously consider the TB.. What a difference...
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I just got my car back today, and let me tell you she is as fun as she has EVER been.. Did the TTM 82 ported polished 82 TB, looped rail, 550 inj, quaiffe LSD, smaller SC pulley, belt wrap kit, split cooling, EC tune/TCU tune.. Woah thats alot.. TB definitely makes a difference Especially with headers.. If you do long tubes Seriously consider the TB.. What a difference...
You just had all this stuff done? How much do you think it gave you in HP and how much was it cost wise?
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Bruce is the best at modding this platform
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Bruce knows his sh*t.. I f he was out this way I would go to him in a second.. As far as cost, let's just say I spent too much. As far as HP goes, 524 on the Heartbreaker Mustang...
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