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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Removing weight from e55 ?

I had a 1998 camaro SS with many tricks done and spray and removed some weight, also had a old version of the cts-v with many tricks and bolt ons and removed some weight from that. Have any of you removed weight from your 55 without changing seats or changing anything that anyone can notice? If I can only remember some of the things I did to my other cars but they were 15 years ago and 9 years ago and I can't recall what the hell I did. Also, this is a benz not a GM product. At the time I had a shop so when I was slow I would just look around, underneath and in engine compartment and would figure out things that just weren't needed and removed them. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't much but 20-30lbs helps with all the little tricks and things I did and it all adds up, as most of you know. In my case 20 or 30lbs really helps when your 6'5" tall and 290lbs! lol So let me know if any of you have come up with anything to shed some weight? I am now recalling like a brace or two under one of my cars which maybe saved 8lbs. or so. Thanks
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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definitely some 1/4 mile guys on here who have stripped damn near everything from the car... for myself, I should probably pull my spare tire to save ~30 lbs

some items like the resonator in the exhaust weigh 20 lbs, if you remove that it's a little but once you start paying to reduce weight, it gets really expensive.. a nice lightweight exhaust will set you back some big $$

honestly, I like the E55 (as a daily driver) fully loaded - its damn fast enough for grocery getting

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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Exhaust, battery, rotors, seats, and delete airmatic are some but will cost.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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The difference between running with a full-tank and an almost empty one is over 100Lbs...

It's not easy finding 100Lbs in weight savings, and this one is basically free.


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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Delete the resonator and secondary cats.. Also replace your battery with a lighter one.. Our battery is close to 65 pounds.. Those 3 things will save you almost 100 lbs.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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changing rims to forgestars should save you about 40 lbs rotational mass and light weight rotors another 36lbs of rotational mass for total of 76 lbs rotational mass, which depending on who you ask, equals roughly 2x- 5x static mass.... so saving 76lbs from your rotating wheels = roughly removing anywhere from 152 lbs to 380 lbs of weight from your car body

i always go at wheels/ rotors/ battery first and then start messing with the interior last if its a nicer car
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
changing rims to forgestars should save you about 40 lbs rotational mass and light weight rotors another 36lbs of rotational mass for total of 76 lbs rotational mass, which depending on who you ask, equals roughly 2x- 5x static mass.... so saving 76lbs from your rotating wheels = roughly removing anywhere from 152 lbs to 380 lbs of weight from your car body

i always go at wheels/ rotors/ battery first and then start messing with the interior last if its a nicer car
+1 on this, lightweight wheels/rotors/etc (any unsprung weight) will make your car feel like it gained 50HP
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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Spare is pulled already, I got it with resonators removed already but explain the battery to me. There is a lighter weight battery or batteries? I thought we had 2 batteries. How much for battery that weighs how much less? Wheels...I like the stock wheels and not going $3k or whatever it is to get a look that I do not care for. I appreciate the input so far...anything else...I'm listening or reading.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Spare is pulled already, I got it with resonators removed already but explain the battery to me. There is a lighter weight battery or batteries? I thought we had 2 batteries. How much for battery that weighs how much less? Wheels...I like the stock wheels and not going $3k or whatever it is to get a look that I do not care for. I appreciate the input so far...anything else...I'm listening or reading.
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....tteries/b3121c

braille battery b3121c weighs 21 lbs and ours is about 60 lbs so about 40lbs saiving

and yes we have 2 batts but the one in the engine compartment is basically a little motorcycle battery for the accessories... not worth changing for weight savings on that one... the one in the trunk is the heavy one
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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$400 for a f**kin battery?

Maybe I will go on a diet!
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:32 PM
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lol that's why i was saying rotors they are more $$ but also will improve handling and reduce rotating weight.... but yeah the driver mod is always the cheapest and best for most people first
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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You can remove 200-250lbs for race day in an hour in these cars, then put it back once done at the track. Cost is roughly $70 spent once for a light weight battery.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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The lightweight battery referred to here is a smaller battery with less power by far then a battery that you would use for everyday driving. The same size battery for the e55 is only 7lbs lighter!

Get this...a lithium full size battery is like 15 lbs and only cost...are you sitting down?.....................HOW ABOUT $36OO!!! LMAO

I'll pass on the battery idea! I will get it up on my buddies lift one day and look for stuff to remove.

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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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Get a small gel cell battery, they weight like 20-25lbs and cost around 100 dollars. Braille doesn't even manufacture their batteries.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Get a small gel cell battery, they weight like 20-25lbs and cost around 100 dollars. Braille doesn't even manufacture their batteries.
Which battery are you exactly referring to? Link?
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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http://www.batterymart.com/p-12v-32a...l-battery.html Here' a gel cell that should work, it ways 26lbs. I'm trying to find the battery I have, my buddy used it in a gold cart project and sprayed painted over the label
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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These batteries do not charge with our alternator...they need a special gel charger so I don't think it will work for reg. driving. I will find other stuff to remove that will not be noticed. I will try anyway.

As far as the race day thing...everytime I use it, it is race day!

Just looking to remove a little weight if possible, my rotors are drilled and slotted but the battery idea is obviously out of the question.

I think I mentioned somewhere that I am doing kleeman headers...anyone know what the dif. in weight is for that change? I will keep you all posted if I figure out some small reductions in weight without it being noticed. I am not removing seats or anything...again...it will be little stuff that no one can notice.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Well, please don't tell my battery it's not supposed to charge of my alternator. I hate for it to find out and stop working.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Well, please don't tell my battery it's not supposed to charge of my alternator. I hate for it to find out and stop working.
So it does work? Anyone else have this battery? Did it work normally in out battery box? It is much smaller is size and is the height the same? How long have you been using it? Wondering what the life of it might be?
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I only use it for racing, all of these small batteries just hold too little power for my taste when it comes down to day-to-day driving.
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 60nomad
So it does work? Anyone else have this battery? Did it work normally in out battery box? It is much smaller is size and is the height the same? How long have you been using it? Wondering what the life of it might be?
Go to post #12 https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...-more-fat.html.

I have been using this smaller lightweight battery as a DD and no problems.
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Spare is pulled already, I got it with resonators removed already but explain the battery to me. There is a lighter weight battery or batteries? I thought we had 2 batteries. How much for battery that weighs how much less? Wheels...I like the stock wheels and not going $3k or whatever it is to get a look that I do not care for. I appreciate the input so far...anything else...I'm listening or reading.
Are you wanting to remove weight for the 1/4 mile? Mod your car and get some drag radials and see what she runs before you start removing weight. That's what I did and I'm 254lbs. Someday I will remove weight but for now I'm satisfied.
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I'm all for making it as light as it can get, but without taking anything away that makes it what it is. If I wanted a gutted drag car it wouldn't be one that cost a s**tload to modify and was heavy to start, I'd get a 99-02 WS6 or a 99-04 Mustang.

So far I've done a lighter battery, lighter 2 piece Evosport rotors, lighter monoblock wheels, and I'm in the middle of doing a Weistec blower, and ARH longtubes with no cats or resonators, both of which are signifigantly lighter than then parts they replace. It's also a low option car with no pano or dynamic seats, both which add weight so I bet this things in the 38-3900 lb range after this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
Are you wanting to remove weight for the 1/4 mile? Mod your car and get some drag radials and see what she runs before you start removing weight. That's what I did and I'm 254lbs. Someday I will remove weight but for now I'm satisfied.
I thought I have made it clear in a couple of posts that it is for normal use but just in case that I have not made it clear then I will here...it is for normal use...not going to drag strip EVER! I clearly wrote that I want to lose some weight 'without anyone being able to notice'. So, with that cleared up I will move on...

JCJMW: I am guessing that post 12 is the battery that is 26lbs. and is small for $394. I called them and they said that it is not recommended for daily use and has much less cranking amps etc etc. I do not use my car daily...more like 2 times a week and there are times when I am really busy that it will be used 1 time in 2 weeks or so.

My question is: Have you had the battery long and what did you do, if anything, to make it work in our battery box?

SIRBOOSTALOT: What battery are you using? How much was it and where can I find it? You seem to understand about making it lighter 'without taking anything away'. I am doing headers shortly and was wondering if removing cats will turn on the check engine light? How much lighter are the headers compared to exhaust mani's?

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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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JCJMW: I am guessing that post 12 is the battery that is 26lbs. and is small for $394. I called them and they said that it is not recommended for daily use and has much less cranking amps etc etc. I do not use my car daily...more like 2 times a week and there are times when I am really busy that it will be used 1 time in 2 weeks or so.

My question is: Have you had the battery long and what did you do, if anything, to make it work in our battery box?

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$394? I dont think you are looking at the same battery. The battery in that post no. 12 is the big crank etx30L for $99 http://www.batterymart.com/p-Big-Cra...L-Battery.html. Who did you call or speak with? Because I spoke directly with a Deka rep, deka makes that battery, and DD use is a non-issue.
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