Multiple LoJacks
#4
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I was told awhile back that the GPS (hence Tele-Aid) can be overridden by simply putting the car inside a metal trailer. The GPS signal would simply be attenuated and disappear from the TeleAid system.
For $700, I think it's a good piece-of-mind, no?
I am also going to have clear-bra installed next weekend, but that's another story. I don't like rock chips, especially on a black car. The clear bra will be installed on the entire front end, a-pillar, front lights, roof line, and gas tank cover.
For $700, I think it's a good piece-of-mind, no?
I am also going to have clear-bra installed next weekend, but that's another story. I don't like rock chips, especially on a black car. The clear bra will be installed on the entire front end, a-pillar, front lights, roof line, and gas tank cover.
Originally posted by Pbglas
Given the GPS stuff and teleaid, is a Lojack even needed?
Given the GPS stuff and teleaid, is a Lojack even needed?
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i would strongly suggest getting LoJack. your dealer should give you a good deal, i believe we payed 500 for a lifetime. also, you can put foil over the antenna, and tele-aid wont work.
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'14 E63S Brabus 850/2008 M5 Dinan S3(sold)
I got LoJack too----one's enough--a piece of mind thing--no problems with the electronics.
--The clear bra is great---I had mine installed 2 days after I got the car--really does a great job protecting from rock chips---not the big stuff--but the daily sand blasting from driving on freeways.
--The clear bra is great---I had mine installed 2 days after I got the car--really does a great job protecting from rock chips---not the big stuff--but the daily sand blasting from driving on freeways.
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#8
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Hmm. I don't think it's different from having someone adding a changer, a built-in radar, or lighted sills in terms of splicing wires.
Originally posted by norb
Am I the only one who thinks that having some one splice into the delicate electronics of an E55 is not such a great idea?
Am I the only one who thinks that having some one splice into the delicate electronics of an E55 is not such a great idea?
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Originally posted by norb
I don't know how LoJac is installed but if its that easy, then couldn't they just unplug the battery to defeat it?
I don't know how LoJac is installed but if its that easy, then couldn't they just unplug the battery to defeat it?
#11
Originally posted by Arnee
I was told awhile back that the GPS (hence Tele-Aid) can be overridden by simply putting the car inside a metal trailer. The GPS signal would simply be attenuated and disappear from the TeleAid system.
For $700, I think it's a good piece-of-mind, no?
I am also going to have clear-bra installed next weekend, but that's another story. I don't like rock chips, especially on a black car. The clear bra will be installed on the entire front end, a-pillar, front lights, roof line, and gas tank cover.
I was told awhile back that the GPS (hence Tele-Aid) can be overridden by simply putting the car inside a metal trailer. The GPS signal would simply be attenuated and disappear from the TeleAid system.
For $700, I think it's a good piece-of-mind, no?
I am also going to have clear-bra installed next weekend, but that's another story. I don't like rock chips, especially on a black car. The clear bra will be installed on the entire front end, a-pillar, front lights, roof line, and gas tank cover.
#12
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GPS uses high frequency signals, which can easily be attenuated. Radio frequencies are much lower frequencies which contain more energy and are harder to attenuate.
Provided (and I have to confirm this) that LoJack uses lower, radio frequencies, then it will be difficult to attenuate/block.
For the sake of paranoia, if the one and only one LoJack unit fails, I guess I'm hoping that there'd be a back-up system or something.
Maybe I can just take the fact that it will fail, and then I will just get a new car instead of recovering a beat-up stolen car.
I suppose I could spend that extra $700 for a RENNtech ECU reprogram.![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Provided (and I have to confirm this) that LoJack uses lower, radio frequencies, then it will be difficult to attenuate/block.
For the sake of paranoia, if the one and only one LoJack unit fails, I guess I'm hoping that there'd be a back-up system or something.
Maybe I can just take the fact that it will fail, and then I will just get a new car instead of recovering a beat-up stolen car.
I suppose I could spend that extra $700 for a RENNtech ECU reprogram.
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Originally posted by KrispyK
Well, if placing the car inside a metal trailer can "stop" GPS signals from going to and from the car ... as I understand it, Lojack also uses radio signals, and as such, a metal trailer should be able to defeat that as well, no? On the other hand, if you feel it's worth it to spend $700, redundancy is always (well, nearly always) a good thing in auto-security.
Well, if placing the car inside a metal trailer can "stop" GPS signals from going to and from the car ... as I understand it, Lojack also uses radio signals, and as such, a metal trailer should be able to defeat that as well, no? On the other hand, if you feel it's worth it to spend $700, redundancy is always (well, nearly always) a good thing in auto-security.
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GPS is just a signal from satellites, the gps reciever on Teleaid just does that, recieve, it transmits via analog cellular phone signals. I don't see how Lojack is any different. It its in a metal container, neither Lojack nor Teleaid will recieve the gps signals.
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Yes, I am in SoCal. I found this place that does high-end cars and have done W211 E55s 2 or 3 times.
The kick is it's in San Diego. I'm driving down there in a couple of weekends to get it done. They said it should take a good half a day for everything (I want extra coverage on special places
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Anyway, here's the website: http://www.mishield.com/ and ask for Bill.
edit: This is the only place I've found that have done W211's so I'm going with them. I haven't found any other ones here in SoCal that have done W211's.
The kick is it's in San Diego. I'm driving down there in a couple of weekends to get it done. They said it should take a good half a day for everything (I want extra coverage on special places
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Anyway, here's the website: http://www.mishield.com/ and ask for Bill.
edit: This is the only place I've found that have done W211's so I'm going with them. I haven't found any other ones here in SoCal that have done W211's.
Originally posted by TMans
Arnee, you wouldn't happen to be in So Cal would you? I have been searching for a clear bra installer, but can't seem to get any info.
Arnee, you wouldn't happen to be in So Cal would you? I have been searching for a clear bra installer, but can't seem to get any info.
Last edited by Arnee; 08-28-2003 at 11:39 AM.
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Originally posted by norb
GPS is just a signal from satellites, the gps reciever on Teleaid just does that, recieve, it transmits via analog cellular phone signals. I don't see how Lojack is any different. It its in a metal container, neither Lojack nor Teleaid will recieve the gps signals.
GPS is just a signal from satellites, the gps reciever on Teleaid just does that, recieve, it transmits via analog cellular phone signals. I don't see how Lojack is any different. It its in a metal container, neither Lojack nor Teleaid will recieve the gps signals.
Lojack does work in a container. It picked up a stolen car off the coast heading to South America,