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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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What is max boost on stock pullies? 10 psi?

I finally figured out how to datalog with the new EuroCharged EuroFlash v2.0 software! (another DIY thread is coming soon... )

So today I went out and did a couple of pulls and as I scroll through the datalog my boost seems to max out at 9.0 psi

I thought it was supposed to be a bit higher than that, but I also just added a set of MBH headers so it's possible that I'm losing some boost from those....


Anyone know how to calculate A/F ratios using the data in these logs?


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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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The afr are narrow band lambda
The headers will lower your boost since its less restrictive and will help breath better
Although your boost went down your power went up from stock

What's important is that the power went up
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hulk
The headers will lower your boost since its less restrictive and will help breath better
Although your boost went down your power went up from stock

What's important is that the power went up
Definitely got more power.... It's hard to do a WOT pull for any length of time without getting into ludicrous highway speeds. Makes datalogging a real challenge.

There is a column with O2 voltage values....i think these can be used to calculate and convert to an A/F ratio? I think I saw a post here somewhere showing how to convert raw lambda values to AFR but I'll have to search again.

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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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Click to log:

Boost
Iat
Timing
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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Your boost reading will fluctuate depending on outside weather. For example, when it is 50 out it may say 8psi or when it is 90 out it may say 10psi. As for air/fuel multiply by 14.7.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Boost is higher when it's colder
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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If you watch the MAP pid you can calculate boost. Start by getting the reading at KOEO- this is the atmospheric pressure read by the MAP at that point in time. When you make a pull record the the readings from the MAP. They will be in "inhg". To calculate boost look for the values higher than the base (KOEO) number. The conversion goes like this:
Reading - base x .49 = psi

Example: max reading was 55 inhg, base was 29.90
So the math looks like this... 55 - 29.90 = 25.1 x .49 = 12.299
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Boost is higher when it's colder
Actually it depends, there are factors (all the stuff that goes in to calculating air density).

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If you watch the MAP pid you can calculate boost. Start by getting the reading at KOEO- this is the atmospheric pressure read by the MAP at that point in time. When you make a pull record the the readings from the MAP. They will be in "inhg". To calculate boost look for the values higher than the base (KOEO) number. The conversion goes like this:
Reading - base x .49 = psi

Example: max reading was 55 inhg, base was 29.90
So the math looks like this... 55 - 29.90 = 25.1 x .49 = 12.299
Uhh, the data logs clearly spell out boost in psi in a column and there is another column giving the kpa value that the map sensor reads before it is converted in to psi for the other column next to it in the log. Not sure what all you are talking about.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Most generic scanners read the MAP value in inches of Mercury "inhg". If you have equipment that does the conversion to psi...Good for you, but not everyone lives in your World.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Uhh, this thread is about the Eurocharged software that has datalogging and does exactly what I just said genius........ So the OP of this thread IS LIVING IN MY WORLD!
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Wow! I try to give solid technical info and you simply want to be a Dick! Proud of you! You have managed to prove that Internet Warriors are rampant on, what would be good entertaining and informative, Forums! SMDH!
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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I am sorry but the OP did not ask "how do I read or calculate boost." I see you are new here so probably aren't familiar with the Eurocharged software or any logging software for this car for that matter which tell you boost. There is no math and formulas needed for a boost reading.

What comes off as "being a dick" to you is "stating the obvious" to others who clearly read a psi number on their log.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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Gotcha. I read the post, but there are many people that read these post. Not all of them are using Eurocharged hardware/software. My response was aimed to help those that seek answers. I am not here to argue or have a virtual fight with anyone. I'll leave you to handle it from here on. Peace!

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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Not just the Euroflash datalogging reads boost (spelt out to you, i.e. no math needed), some others that people use do too, but like I mentioned this thread was about the Eurocharged Euroflash anyway.

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LoL! Thanks for the insight! Anyone have anything informative to add?
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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I thought you were "peacing out" of this beotch?
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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Can I steer this back to some good/useful info by asking if anyone knows that the stock MAP puts out voltage-wise? I'm curious to log from it outside of using OBD (too damned slow).
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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Put a boost tap on the surge tank
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MindBend
Can I steer this back to some good/useful info by asking if anyone knows that the stock MAP puts out voltage-wise? I'm curious to log from it outside of using OBD (too damned slow).
Any help is appreciated.
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You can do it two ways. As Hulk said, run a boost tap and use an independent sensor. Or tap off of the stock one. It's a 2.5bar sensor so 0v is 0 bar (full vacuum) and 5v is 2.5 bar (22.05 Psig). PM me if you want to do it and I can send you wiring diagrams and locations on the ecu. I'm real time logging MAP, IAT, TPS, Rpm, and Afr for the exact reasons you mentioned.
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