W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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im with you Hulk, there's a bunch of people on here stirring the pot. I've known bruce for years and I've never had an issue with the way he conducts business. I've met a lot of his customers too, some of them are forum guys, never have i heard an ill word about him before this.
Hold on a minute. I usually do not agree with Aknight55. But, how is he stirring the pot this time? Someone paid $18k to Bruce and did not get the agreed upon parts/services and thats ok to you two? I understand you two might be friends with or have had good transactions with Bruce, so that makes it ok for Bruce to do wrong to others? With all due respect, its not Aknight55 stirring the pot. It seems more like you two are trying to suppress other peoples experiences with Bruce and the sharing of their personal experiences.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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Hold on a minute. I usually do not agree with Aknight55. But, how is he stirring the pot this time? Someone paid $18k to Bruce and did not get the agreed upon parts/services and thats ok to you two? I understand you two might be friends with or have had good transactions with Bruce, so that makes it ok for Bruce to do wrong to others? With all due respect, its not Aknight55 stirring the pot. It seems more like you two are trying to suppress other peoples experiences with Bruce and the sharing of their personal experiences.
No, like I said I feel for kelvin and hope the two of them can work it out, reason I said AK was stirring the pot as usual is because he once again injected my name saying I was always touting Bruce, well yes I was but so was so many others and he has done a lot of good, however in this instance kelvin and Bruce have to work it out, I do not agree with the fact that kelvin or anyone else should get shafted
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jcjmw
Hold on a minute. I usually do not agree with Aknight55. But, how is he stirring the pot this time? Someone paid $18k to Bruce and did not get the agreed upon parts/services and thats ok to you two? I understand you two might be friends with or have had good transactions with Bruce, so that makes it ok for Bruce to do wrong to others? With all due respect, its not Aknight55 stirring the pot. It seems more like you two are trying to suppress other peoples experiences with Bruce and the sharing of their personal experiences.
look, like i said in an earlier post, nobody knows what the real story is yet, we're only hearing from one side. I havent called the man to see what the deal is, its not my business. What i'm talking about with people stirring the pot is that we have a bunch of rookies on here with less than a year on the forum, with no mods, who have never had any experience with Bruce talking smack.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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I'm not for or against anyone in here.

But a word of advice, if you plan to go against a vendor sponsored by MBW or not. All the info you have posted is now public knowledge and can be used by either side in a legal battle. Except now you are entering defamation of character and slander.

Keep your dirty laundry to yourself and act like a big boy and deal with it. Power of the angry mob won't help your case.
this is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time...
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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this is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time...
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by theblckghst
look, like i said in an earlier post, nobody knows what the real story is yet, we're only hearing from one side. I havent called the man to see what the deal is, its not my business. What i'm talking about with people stirring the pot is that we have a bunch of rookies on here with less than a year on the forum, with no mods, who have never had any experience with Bruce talking smack.
I would be one of those rookies and I have dealt with him and I mentioned many things about him that were all true so call me a rookie or not (on this forum and to these cars) but I have seen many guys pulling stuff like he has done and I am NO rookie to that! I am also NO rookie to judging people and I am a good judge of character but when you get a salesman like him with screwing people on his mind, then 'they' are hard to read! He seemed like a good guy and maybe he is in some way but as far as business goes, he is bad! He never answered his phone or returned my phonecalls for a job that he quoted me $1800 for and told me to just drop my car off next week. I told him to call me when the headers came in and 'THEN' I would drop my car off to him! I had a bad feeling of dropping it off and not getting it back in a timely manner. I personally wanted it back in one day as I hate leaving my cars anywhere!!! There are many other telltale signs that told me to be a little weary of this guy but I don't need to get into all that. I will say the one is that he talked bad about everyone, everyone was an idiot or a tool or didn't know anything...EVERYONE!? Come on now, I work with my competition all the time, not against them! If I don't deal with them then I do not call them idiots to everyone I know!

Now, have you heard all of the other nightmare stories of leaving cars there...yeah I will have it done blah blah blah! How about the others who had work done and it was Frankenstein work!? I don't know what it takes for you guys to see what has gone on there in that VOODOO shop but wake up!!! Keep in mind that I was extremely partial to his shop because I live 10 FREAKIN miles away!!! Who is gonna do my work now? I only call it as I see it and how on earth some of you guys don't see it...well...I will just never understand it! I didn't take your statement personally and don't take it that way at all but I felt that I had to explain this all over again!

I don't care how you feel about him love him or hate him..I don't feel either way about him but I do hate scam artists! Does that statement fit him? We will soon see! No hard feelings for you Bruce fans...just sayin!

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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Let's face it, Bruce's silence is more telling than anyones else actual story. Innocent people don't remain quiet and Bruce of all people is not one to remain quiet, that's for sure!
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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We can make this really simple.

1) Bruce is very well aware of the threads on here and has not responded to them at all. No matter what people are going to consider that a sign of guilt.

2) Car sit at his shop forever.

3) He doesn't answer the phone. What kind of business doesn't answer the phone during working hours? not a real business. I know that people say that he is just to busy with work to answer the phone. That's BS. You're in business to make money so you hire people to do things when you have enough work, that's what you got into business for.

4) He's not registered with the state of New York as a repair shop so he is unlicensed and he is probably not insured either. A repair shop that is not registered with the state is not allowed to be doing repairs, Bruce is not registered with the state of New York.

5) He drives customers cars around for personal use, unless he owns an E63 too because I have personally seen him driving a white E63 on the weekend.

6) He does not have a good reputation with people in New York that are not on the forum. Most Mercedes drivers that are into performance from Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island have nothing good to say about Bruce.

7) His shop is a disgusting, unorganized mess and that is also how his life happens to be.

These are all facts and they are hard to deny.

In MY OPINION Bruce's days as a business owner are doomed and I don't think Bruce will be around much longer. The writing has been on the wall for a little while now that his business is in trouble. He has been slowly burying himself and has been staying clear of the forums for quite some time. He used to be more active but he has been avoiding confrontation as he is dealing with it on may fronts, not just MBWorld. The fact that he was looking for cash around the Christmas holidays is a tell-tale sign about where that money was intended to go. I actually do not have any problem with that if he was actually able to live up to his customers expectations.

It is going to end badly and some more people are going to get screwed. Kelvin from Costa Rica is not going to get his car back, customers are going to have to tow cars out of the shop unfinished, his best way to handle this would be to start being truthful now and make the backlash that much less in the future. I hope a lot of people do not become collateral damage in this saga but I'm afraid that they will.

Your best bet-

Start looking for another shop to handle your work, do not buy any parts from him, avoid the situation that is soon going to happen.

If Bruce says that I am wrong about anything that I have written here I welcome him to respond. You can even PM me as I will never discuss private messages with anyone. I AM NOT WRONG, THIS IS GOING DOWN LIKE THIS. Do what you need to limit whatever fallout you may have from this situation.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PACougar
Let's face it, Bruce's silence is more telling than anyones else actual story. Innocent people don't remain quiet and Bruce of all people is not one to remain quiet, that's for sure!
Honestly, I don't even know why I replied! What a waste of typing!

I guess it was the 'Rookie' statement!

After all the business horror stories come full circle, the next will be someone claiming that 'he' was asked to write some of these sob stories for ...you know who!
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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Wow, a simple few words of advice turned into a complete festering ****storm.

I've been on here long enough to see how these things go. I was actually involved in one that happened about 8-9 years ago. Guy was pissed about a blown motor, turned out the car had lots of issues before it even got work done on it that was not told to the shop doing the work. Guy came on the forum and trash talked the forum up and down. They did end up in court and the accused sued the accuser and won. I just happened to be a witness on the side of the accused because I was in the shop when **** hit the fan between the two of them. All of the comments, accusations from the forum were documented and used in court.

There are two people that know exactly what when down, Bruce and Kelvin. Beyond that everything else is just 2nd hand. There are always three sides to every story. Yours, his and the truth. If he did do this then hire a lawyer and take him to court and stop crying about it. But making a witch hunt out of it on a public forum is about as useful as starting a rumor on facebook.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by amg guy
Wow, a simple few words of advice turned into a complete festering ****storm.

I've been on here long enough to see how these things go. I was actually involved in one that happened about 8-9 years ago. Guy was pissed about a blown motor, turned out the car had lots of issues before it even got work done on it that was not told to the shop doing the work. Guy came on the forum and trash talked the forum up and down. They did end up in court and the accused sued the accuser and won. I just happened to be a witness on the side of the accused because I was in the shop when **** hit the fan between the two of them. All of the comments, accusations from the forum were documented and used in court.

There are two people that know exactly what when down, Bruce and Kelvin. Beyond that everything else is just 2nd hand. There are always three sides to every story. Yours, his and the truth. If he did do this then hire a lawyer and take him to court and stop crying about it. But making a witch hunt out of it on a public forum is about as useful as starting a rumor on facebook.
Kelvin: What do you think of this statement! WOW
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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I dont think anyone is "crying", as they are just sharing their experience with a sponsor (which should no longer be a sponsor with the way TTM has been doing business).. This one experience Kelvin shared brought out many more people sharing similar experience, which most forum members wouldn't know about.. This is a forum to share ideas and experiences, be it negative or positive. It looks like TTMs ways of doing business have finally caught up with them.. If you dont believe Kelvins story, then what about all the others? Dont believe them too
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by amg guy
Wow, a simple few words of advice turned into a complete festering ****storm.

I've been on here long enough to see how these things go. I was actually involved in one that happened about 8-9 years ago. Guy was pissed about a blown motor, turned out the car had lots of issues before it even got work done on it that was not told to the shop doing the work. Guy came on the forum and trash talked the forum up and down. They did end up in court and the accused sued the accuser and won. I just happened to be a witness on the side of the accused because I was in the shop when **** hit the fan between the two of them. All of the comments, accusations from the forum were documented and used in court.

There are two people that know exactly what when down, Bruce and Kelvin. Beyond that everything else is just 2nd hand. There are always three sides to every story. Yours, his and the truth. If he did do this then hire a lawyer and take him to court and stop crying about it. But making a witch hunt out of it on a public forum is about as useful as starting a rumor on facebook.
Have you missed how many others have posted their personal experience with Bruce? They're not second hand knowledge and this is not a witch hunt.
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Old Jun 27, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by amg guy
If he did do this then hire a lawyer and take him to court and stop crying about it. But making a witch hunt out of it on a public forum is about as useful as starting a rumor on facebook.
Karma is a bit$h. We will all remember this statement when you or one of yours ever gets ripped off by another.
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