3K Stall Torque Convertors - New Shipment
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2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
3K Stall Torque Convertors - New Shipment
We received a new shipment of high stall torque convertors
Product Description
3000 stall converter for street or strip
11" diameter vs stock 12"
10 lbs lighter than stock to reduce rotating mass
triple lock up clutch
high performance pump and bearings
all new and no core charges!
Price is 950 plus shipping in the continental US
Members who have this unit please post your reviews.
Product Description
3000 stall converter for street or strip
11" diameter vs stock 12"
10 lbs lighter than stock to reduce rotating mass
triple lock up clutch
high performance pump and bearings
all new and no core charges!
Price is 950 plus shipping in the continental US
Members who have this unit please post your reviews.
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2006 E55 AMG
I have one of these units and it is very nasty. What is crazy is that you dont feel the lag like you would expect from a higher stall conveter like this one.
It is much easier to build rpm from a stand still until you push through the brakes, for example I can rev the car up to close to 3K before it starts pushing through the brakes, so launching is much more violent.
Doing slow role pulls or even highway pulls is much imrpoved, as yo feel like you are been catapulted forward.
It is much easier to build rpm from a stand still until you push through the brakes, for example I can rev the car up to close to 3K before it starts pushing through the brakes, so launching is much more violent.
Doing slow role pulls or even highway pulls is much imrpoved, as yo feel like you are been catapulted forward.
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2003 CL55
I have one of these units and it is very nasty. What is crazy is that you dont feel the lag like you would expect from a higher stall conveter like this one.
It is much easier to build rpm from a stand still until you push through the brakes, for example I can rev the car up to close to 3K before it starts pushing through the brakes, so launching is much more violent.
Doing slow role pulls or even highway pulls is much imrpoved, as yo feel like you are been catapulted forward.
It is much easier to build rpm from a stand still until you push through the brakes, for example I can rev the car up to close to 3K before it starts pushing through the brakes, so launching is much more violent.
Doing slow role pulls or even highway pulls is much imrpoved, as yo feel like you are been catapulted forward.
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CL55 UPD Cold Air Boost kit, UPD 3000 stall converter, UPD 77mm SC clutched pulley and beltwrap kit, Custom long tubes, UPD crank pulley , UPD suspension kit, UPD SC pulley, Aux. HE, Trunk tank w/rule 2000 pump, Mezeire pump, UPD 5pc idler set, Aluminum rotor hats.
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From: new ringgold pa
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it will feel like the trailer of off the back of the car it will just go from any rpm and part throttle stop go driving is way better. Stock pulley 2nd gear burnouts from a roll yup i have a 3000 stall.
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03 E55 AMG, 06 Harley Road King Custom 06 Ram 2500 Cummins, 97 Firebird Race Car, 88 Cutlass Supreme
Weren't there issues with tuning with higher stalls in these cars? How are trans temps? Would an additional trans cooler be a good idea or is the stock setup able to keep this in check?
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i doubt you will see much increase in temps unless you in alot of stop and go traffic and your flashing the stall, if you drive normal you wont know its there really
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I have had zero issues with the stock trans cooling and zero issues with tuning the car with it in there.
Just what Tim said, with normal driving you are not really aware it is there, only when you start to get aggressive will it rear its nasty attitude lol.
Just what Tim said, with normal driving you are not really aware it is there, only when you start to get aggressive will it rear its nasty attitude lol.
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99 ford lightning
if its a downside forget out getting into first and 2nd gear because your going to blow the tires off. Trust me a pulley on a car with aircharges in the 150's and summer heat is way worse then a stall.
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Summer heat, plus stall? Without a temp gauge one can only speculate. My last car was a small displacement big turbo auto with a big stall. A single quarter mile pass and I can see temps just below 300, after the coolers! Yes, plural coolers.
It just depends on use and capacity of existing system.
It just depends on use and capacity of existing system.
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I don't get this. I would think due to the lighter weight and less parasitic loss, if anything, mpg would improve slightly.
As for losing mph in each gear, I don't see how. It isn't changing the gear ratios.
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2005 E55, 11 second truck, ducati streetfighter 1098
losing mph possibly because there is a larger gap between engine rpm and transmission input speed
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You will not loose MPH in each gear; please see rule # 1. You will gain MPH in each gear at WOT and in the 1/4 mile. You will average more HP in each gear as an average under WOT, thus go faster and have higher MPH. We have big heavy cars and the extra stall is a big help in helping them move. Since they are locking converters, this is why everyone states the converter feels stock, until you lay into the gas and unlease the raped ape! Now under WOT, MPG may drop but that is what more power and TQ do at WOT.
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Schino is correct. The loss of MPH in eache gear would be relative to each gear, the higher the gear the more multiplied the loss would be but only while the TC lock up function was disengaged. I'm not aware of the programming of the lock up function in the E55 but most transmission dont allow/force lock up under a substantial load. What does this mean? If you were currently topping out a gear hitting the traps, you may experience an upshift. Inversely if you were in the middle of the gear, you might pick up some MPH by avoiding a shift. While cruising, thing should lock up as usual and net similar mpg and mph.
However, the stall on my previous car was too great for the programming and confused all the parameters in my TCU. It was so bad that I manually wired a switch to control my lockup function but I doubt any thing like this would be necessary in these cars.
However, the stall on my previous car was too great for the programming and confused all the parameters in my TCU. It was so bad that I manually wired a switch to control my lockup function but I doubt any thing like this would be necessary in these cars.
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2005 E55, 11 second truck, ducati streetfighter 1098
anyone care to share if we have wot lock up. most cars wont let it happen because standard clutches wont hold but im new to this platform. the stock converter is too tight to realize if its locked or not and my logger doesnt do trans input speed or tc slip values
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It's wouldn't be difficult to add such a feature, should be able to compute between gear, wheel speed and RPM.
But yeah, most transmissions also let the lock go between shifts as well.
I emailed John at IPT earlier today, hopefully he can provide some insight on the E55 AMG lock up function and its programming.
But yeah, most transmissions also let the lock go between shifts as well.
I emailed John at IPT earlier today, hopefully he can provide some insight on the E55 AMG lock up function and its programming.
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2006 C55, 1995 C36
Any chance you know the K-factor and torque numbers used to determine the 3K stall? I've read previously that these will work just fine in a n/a 55 but I'd like to know what the stall would be with my lower torque curve.
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You are correct Dennis. Rule # 1) These are locking converters and they lock up using clutches, same as stock,,, plus these performance converters have more clutches added, so they can lock up harder. So less slip = , well you got the picture. You will not loose MPH in each gear; please see rule # 1. You will gain MPH in each gear at WOT and in the 1/4 mile. You will average more HP in each gear as an average under WOT, thus go faster and have higher MPH. We have big heavy cars and the extra stall is a big help in helping them move.
Since they are locking converters, this is why everyone states the converter feels stock, until you lay into the gas and unlease the raped ape! Now under WOT, MPG may drop but that is what more power and TQ do at WOT.
You will not loose MPH in each gear; please see rule # 1. You will gain MPH in each gear at WOT and in the 1/4 mile. You will average more HP in each gear as an average under WOT, thus go faster and have higher MPH. We have big heavy cars and the extra stall is a big help in helping them move. Since they are locking converters, this is why everyone states the converter feels stock, until you lay into the gas and unlease the raped ape! Now under WOT, MPG may drop but that is what more power and TQ do at WOT.
Any idea if there's something for ML63?
