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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Yeah but it would be totally different for a V. All the lines would need to be different and different connection types as well I would assume, so Kincaid would have to design a new setup to work.
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 02:04 AM
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Here is another thread of the LSA engine with similar mods including the ported snout and blower you want to do.

http://www.ctsvowners.com/forum/show...s-dyno-results!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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Not want to do, am doing , sitting in the shop now, about to begin tearing it apart.

A guy a few days ago just went 10.5@131 in south Florida with a 1300ft DA in a V, he dynoed 610. A little exciting considering I already dynoed over that in a 2300ft DA, and about to add more ponies
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by urbamworm
Not want to do, am doing , sitting in the shop now, about to begin tearing it apart.

A guy a few days ago just went 10.5@131 in south Florida with a 1300ft DA in a V, he dynoed 610. A little exciting considering I already dynoed over that in a 2300ft DA, and about to add more ponies
So when are you taking it to the track?
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Was gonna hit Orlando tonight but doubt I will make it back in time. Sir-boost and a friend were going to go, so was gonna meet up with them if possible.
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 02:12 PM
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Not want to do, am doing , sitting in the shop now, about to begin tearing it apart.
Sweet! Keep us posted with the dyno results and Seat of the pants feel from just those mods.
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Well, my car sucks...... Had a few things done to help with intake air temps while having the blower done and still have the same problem. Now that I have a reservoir tank though we could investigate in to the flow and it was almost non existent. You squeeze the lines and feel NOTHING flowing. You can hear the pump running but there is literally no flow in the tank (water is stagnant). I don't understand what is happening, it has to be intermittently sort of working or something because the temps do start coming down while logging and cruising but it takes to long to happen.

It is rare that the stock pumps have a problem so I am torn right now if the stock pump is "failing" and barely flowing or if it has something to do with my pretty big heat exchanger, but we are leaning toward the pump, I am just trying to figure out if somehow something is stuck in the pump causing it to not flow, there is air trapped (we bled the heat exchanger and air should escape from the reservoir too though) or the pump is just bad. So now I need to decide what pump of the available options to get and then get that in and hopefully have that issue fixed.

The car didn't do the number I was hoping for but I guess at the end of the day it is just a number. It was after all a different dyno and different day. The numbers ended up being 639whp 622wtq. I haven't really driven the car hard yet, just for street logs/adjustments, during that I had the tuner and then a forum member here (AMG E POWER) that met up to hang out also in the car. I really don't know what kind of number I would be likely to see on the street though considering there were changes made after leaving the dyno and street tuning such as 1* of timing removed in the upper rpms but then the car also again like last time ran just over 1.5psi more boost on the street. I went to a slightly bigger supercharge pulley (2.55 vs 2.5) so I know boost was going to lower a little but it didn't really look like much change on the logs since we saw 15 last time and 14.9 on one of the runs on the dyno this time then 16.6 I think it was on the street vs 16.8 last time.

The car is still definitely fast but I am wondering how bad the pump is hurting me with it now flowing at least all the time, the car takes to long to recover and I am starting at to high of a intake temp on the street when logging. We saw like 130 in the blower while cruising and then 170 at the end of a pull to about 115mph. This was with a intake temp from the other sensor a the MAF on the air intake of around 90, so it was good there but in the blower was not good at all.

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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Don't let urbamworm fool u with his post ! His car does not suck lol in fact it's the fastest car I have had the Privilege to ride in he's a great guy, hung out the whole day. His car sounds like a damn NASCAR ! It will trap 130+ without a doubt. Get that pump looked at and if that's the problem I think u will def gain another 20whp just from lowering the iats. Nice meeting u man, drive safe in both ur beasts !
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 11:55 AM
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Thanks man, it is just frustrating. I didn't even feel the hoses last night myself, just was going by what Jeremy was saying but I just went out to the car and turned the key to make the pump flow.

I could hear it running so I opened the ice box and saw dead water in there (no movement) and then squeezed the hoses (both feed and return) to the supercharger and literally there was zero pressure in the hoses like absolutely nothing was flowing. Has me a little worried until I get this figured out, I wish I had a logger in the car to know what the intake temps were looking like. I just don't understand how the pump is running but no water is moving.

I guess if I do a blast through the gears I will need to wait a little before doing a second blast. Car feels strong though for not working right at the moment.
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Urban - Your car is toasted and you should ditch it right away....do us both a favor and send it out to me ...
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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What is your address? It has to be the pump, if you stick your hand in the tank you can only feel the flow if you totally block off the tube leaving a small crack between your fingers.

The water should be ripping out of there.
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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Contact Ben at Weapon X for a pump upgrade if that indeed is the problem as the stock unit may not be capable of keeping up with your big heat exchanger.

http://www.weaponxmotorsports.com/
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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I wouldn't be romping on it at all until you get that pump replaced. Is it self priming ? Some pumpsneed help getting started after you do some work on them. Broken impeller could run and not pump.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Against your recommendation, I met up anyway. I know the car wasn't running how it should but I said who cares, I still wanted to see how it would do. It was about 90 degrees when we did these runs too. A little painful with a messed up intercooler pump but I don't think I did to bad lol.

I don't want it to be searchable on Youtube since with the broken intercooler pump the car is running "not up to par" right now, but still decent so here is the private link. Not the best but something is better than nothing for now. Elliot and I in the V and E63 driver alone.

Renntech tuned E63. As you see in the first run where I was the least "heat soaked" while still being heat soaked I was gone and he couldn't catch me, unfortunately I had the camera facing backwards on his car since we had a camera in mine ran by my passenger RedbullJnky but none of the video came out. We got about 1.5 car lengths out front on that first run, after that he jumped with all the confusion on the second run and I couldn't catch him then the 3rd run was about 1 min later. Perfect start which I pulled for a few seconds but then couldn't overcome the heat with my pump not flowing so he caught me and pulled ahead about .5-1 car separating us before he let off at around 120, he didn't want to go any higher since he has some kind of vibration from what he thinks is spacers he is running that needs to get sorted out.

I am sure my intake temps were at least 170 if not higher by that point from the data logging done 2 days before when we discovered the broken pump while doing runs from 50-115ish where I was starting at 130 and ending at 170 for intake temps.

He wants to meet again though so hopefully we can and also have a few other cars there next time. New pump should be here Thursday, so it will be installed before I head back north through his area, so I will definitely be ready for battle then.

I wish I remember what Elliot (Redbulljnky) said as we were pulling away in the first run, I think he was a little surprised to say the least haha.


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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Had to change to "unlisted" which is what I wanted, guess private means I have to name people I will allow.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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You should put alcohol on it anyways. I'm not sure what lower you're running, but you're probably spinning that 1.9 liter blower at least 25,000 rpm!
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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2.55 upper and 9.1 lower, 16.6psi Friday night when logging on the street with myself, the tuner Formato and John (AMG E Power) above all in the car and weather was 88-90 degrees when doing the runs.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Nice runs dude ! Get that pump and go run again question, is the e63 box tune from renntech or dyno ? Oh yeah, Ur car sounds so awesomely loud
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Not sure, he said he dynoed I think it was 620whp and 720wtq, he ran at PBIR in south Florida on street tires to a 11.2@127 with I think 2.0 60ft.
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Ya seen that, think he dyno'd @ragetek. Any plans for the track soon ? How do u like those nittos so far, they look sticky !
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I haven't ran them at low pressure, just around 27psi cold which goes up to around 30 warm after driving, so I am sure they could be better at the low pressure. They will spin like crazy if I turn traction off and go from a stop or slow roll with them not warmed up, not to sure about after driving around for a while, but they hook at 40+ on the street whenever I have driven around and then decided to punch it both letting it downshift in auto or putting it in 2nd manually and then punching it.
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Which Nittos do you have? ( sorry if I missed it earlier in this thread)
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Awesome CTS-V....would you PM what you are into it $$$ (mod wise)....Seems like a killer platform (GM v8, dry sump, s/c)...If only it had AWD
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