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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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Anybody use their light weight rotors on the street ?
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i had them on my 32 and they were awesome. remember you cant use ceramic pads with them a hawk hps pad is preferred. brinell hardness is a 277
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i had them on my 32 and they were awesome. remember you cant use ceramic pads with them a hawk hps pad is preferred. brinell hardness is a 277
Improves handling, braking. Also by reducing rotational mass, about the equivalent of a 40HP increase.

It has been more than 5000 miles since new with EBC Reds and no problems with many hard applications above 110 MPH.
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40...
where did you get that number...
if that was try we should all do rotors.....
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^ Thats like 10hp per rotor? ?
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$1300 just for the fronts - yikes, you can pull the spare tire and cut-out your resonator to save more weight
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Originally Posted by AgSilver
Improves handling, braking. Also by reducing rotational mass, about the equivalent of a 40HP increase.

It has been more than 5000 miles since new with EBC Reds and no problems with many hard applications above 110 MPH.


That's a big HP number to toss around, especially for for a non power mod... While rotational mass does make a big impact, I'd like to see a source for this number...
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$1300 just for the fronts - yikes, you can pull the spare tire and cut-out your resonator to save more weight
That's non rotational mass. also, its not just about weight. Stopping power FTW lol.

PS. Great sig pic
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That's non rotational mass. also, its not just about weight. Stopping power FTW lol.

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yes, I totally agree, unsprung weight is a big difference on the corners - how do those rotors stop better than the stock ones? they're just lighter - correct?

and yes, I like my sig pic too
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Originally Posted by Toadster
yes, I totally agree, unsprung weight is a big difference on the corners - how do those rotors stop better than the stock ones? they're just lighter - correct?

and yes, I like my sig pic too
Yes, they are lighter, as well as being made of a harder iron than the OEM, different vane design if i recall, etc.. if you go into their site it gets a bit more in depth in regards to their advantages
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yes, I totally agree, unsprung weight is a big difference on the corners - how do those rotors stop better than the stock ones? they're just lighter - correct?

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Rotational mass, also known as kinetic energy. It takes less energy to spin up and therefore less energy to dissipate under braking.
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40...
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It is a calculation which can be applied to any rotational mass. For example; look at the equivalent HP gains that are achieved by the replacement of engine crank pulleys with lightweight units as offered by various tuners. Usually in the range of a 10HP equivalence. Now consider the effect of a reduction of 40 LBS of rotational mass. This is partly why most exotics such as Ferrari, MB SLS, Porsche, to name just a few, all offer carbon rotors which save another 40 LBS or about 80 LBS. The MB SLS even utilizes a carbon fiber drive shaft (as do I) to reduce rotational mass. Years ago an acquaintance of mine said "add horsepower and go faster on the straightaways . . . add lightness and go faster everywhere". His name was Colin Chapman.
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Learn more about the advantage on light weight rotors from "ML63"'s latest evaluation on his ML63 wit RacingBrake's two piece rotors (front and rear) installed.

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Under the thread title: World's First: RacingBrake 2-Piece Brake Rotors ...
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