W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
Renntech said anything over 1.1 bar will cause problems with our map sensor. (My tech called them looking for answers to my issue. Apparently, Renntech helps multiple Mercedes dealerships with issues not even related to Renntech products) They also stated our map sensor is not designed for higher boost application. Since some have issues while others don't......I guess it is open for speculation. A map clamp installed to avoid @ 2-3 psi overboost is safe. Anymore boost will require a different map sensor.

Besides, who are you for me to phucking correct myself too?
I'm running over 20psi. Maybe you shouldn't take your car to Renntech lol
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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I'm running over 20psi. Maybe you shouldn't take your car to Renntech lol
Who's hitting 20 psi with a factory blower on M113K? Maybe the blower like yours is the answer. No one is hitting failsafe with aftermarket blowers......right? On your Renntech comment, who in the hell else figured it out? Eurocharged? We are all d*ck measuring who's car is doing what with no answers why. Assumptions are endless here on this thread. I map clamped and tuned it with BIP Tuning with no problems like I was dealing with before. Since no one else has an ANSWER to the problem......I'll use mine.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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We're getting no answers because nobody has significantly advanced the tuning capabilities of this platform in 10 years. :-/
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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We're getting no answers because nobody has significantly advanced the tuning capabilities of this platform in 10 years. :-/
Most of us here are die hard gear heads. I probably can speak for the most of us on how frustrating it is to see the lack options we have for the M113K to be a monster. The platform is pretty much maxed at @620-675 rwhp.....even with twin turbos. After this Texas Mile race, I'm going to put good ole erebus to pasture as a daily driver. 65 series is my only option for 1000 hp+ monster. My ghey looking clk63 convertible is not even an option. lol
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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That would be cool...but I've yet to see a true 1000whp 65 and I'm quite sure that has to do with lack of any real tuning as well. I think someone is finally going to have to run a standalone to see the true potential of any AMG motor.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
Who's hitting 20 psi with a factory blower on M113K? Maybe the blower like yours is the answer. No one is hitting failsafe with aftermarket blowers......right? On your Renntech comment, who in the hell else figured it out? Eurocharged? We are all d*ck measuring who's car is doing what with no answers why. Assumptions are endless here on this thread. I map clamped and tuned it with BIP Tuning with no problems like I was dealing with before. Since no one else has an ANSWER to the problem......I'll use mine.
The map sensor doesn't know or care what or how the boost is made. Its job is to measure boost regardless. So its not the sc difference
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
That would be cool...but I've yet to see a true 1000whp 65 and I'm quite sure that has to do with lack of any real tuning as well. I think someone is finally going to have to run a standalone to see the true potential of any AMG motor.
Stay "tuned"
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
The map sensor doesn't know or care what or how the boost is made. Its job is to measure boost regardless. So its not the sc difference
I'm well aware of the map sensor's job. Please explain why some go to failsafe and some don't? Why only on factory blowers? Eurocharged didn't change the tune to allow more boost......so how is your map allowing it? Boost fairy granted you a wish?
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 04:10 AM
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Is MAP sensor has any relation to the MAF reading..?, just curious if so..??

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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
The map sensor doesn't know or care what or how the boost is made. Its job is to measure boost regardless. So its not the sc difference


Originally Posted by EREBUS
I'm well aware of the map sensor's job. Please explain why some go to failsafe and some don't? Why only on factory blowers? Eurocharged didn't change the tune to allow more boost......so how is your map allowing it? Boost fairy granted you a wish?
It's likely in the ecu logic, he's not in an E55. If it's not in the logic, it's in the tune and how the map sensor is scaled within the tune.

I really have a hard time taking you seriously when you're so egotistical but don't have the knowledge to support it.

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Is MAP sensor has any relation to the MAF reading..?, just curious if so..??

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They're both inputs. Some platforms use both in conjunction with one another but ours does not, we only have a map.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rockthemullet
They're both inputs. Some platforms use both in conjunction with one another but ours does not, we only have a map.
Thankss for clarification..

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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
I'm well aware of the map sensor's job. Please explain why some go to failsafe and some don't? Why only on factory blowers? Eurocharged didn't change the tune to allow more boost......so how is your map allowing it? Boost fairy granted you a wish?
Come on man, Everyone knows the boost fairy doesn't exist lol. The supercharger whispered something to the map sensor
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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I really have a hard time taking you seriously when you're so egotistical but don't have the knowledge to support it.
Hey powertrain engineer, have you tested your ideas in the real world? Of course not. Congrats, you're spewing the same sh*t many have proposed and tried well before you graced this thread. Just giving your .02? Well, aren't we all blessed. lol
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EREBUS
Hey powertrain engineer, have you tested your ideas in the real world? Of course not. Congrats, you're spewing the same sh*t many have proposed and tried well before you graced this thread. Just giving your .02? Well, aren't we all blessed. lol
I rest my case
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 02:58 PM
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so if you receive a P0160 code and the idle fluctuates does that mean the Map Sensor is no Good?
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AndreNY
so if you receive a P0160 code and the idle fluctuates does that mean the Map Sensor is no Good?
Don't know about that but if, under acceleration, your AFRs begin to lean out after the code manifests, then all of your symptoms are consistent with what is commonly labeled "hiccup mode".
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AndreNY
so if you receive a P0160 code and the idle fluctuates does that mean the Map Sensor is no Good?
If you're bone stock I might suspect a bad map sensor. If you're tuned then it's related to an area within the new maps that tuners are as of yet blind to.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm55
Don't know about that but if, under acceleration, your AFRs begin to lean out after the code manifests, then all of your symptoms are consistent with what is commonly labeled "hiccup mode".
But how is it that some ppl have no issues running a 80 or 82 mm throttle body and others do?

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If you're bone stock I might suspect a bad map sensor. If you're tuned then it's related to an area within the new maps that tuners are as of yet blind to.
My car is not stock I have the 82mm TB from a S550 with other mods as well
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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But how is it that some ppl have no issues running a 80 or 82 mm throttle body and others do?
For now, that remains a mystery. Weistec are currently working on a fix for this and I'll hopefully have something positive to report in the near future.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
If you're bone stock I might suspect a bad map sensor. If you're tuned then it's related to an area within the new maps that tuners are as of yet blind to.
^^^^this
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 08:11 AM
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The hiccup is in the tune, ask member jcjmw how his estate is running with our new tune.

He had that hiccup for months with a different tune. I myself have the s550 throttle body and have never had that issue.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BI-Performance
The hiccup is in the tune, ask member jcjmw how his estate is running with our new tune.

He had that hiccup for months with a different tune. I myself have the s550 throttle body and have never had that issue.
I have a Eurocharged Tune on my car now, are you saying with your tune I wont have that issue? if so sign me up for a tune
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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For this sensor 0051537228 it says it doesn't work on the E55, did you guys go to a dealer to pick this up?
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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"005 153 72 28" definitely will work, why it doesn't..?

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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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Was just asking because it doesn't say for the E55,CL55 etc
Only for the CL65 etc

Also where did everyone get it
Mymbparts.com ?
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