Is MB Arts Still In Business ? Issue
11-15-2013, 10:05 AM
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Is MB Arts Still In Business ? Issue
After purchasing rear toe links and having an issue with the heim joints wearing out pretty fast I might add ,causing an annoying creaking noise ,and back and forth play causing toe in toe out deviation,they said I had a lifetime warranty on the parts and sent me new heim joints , the same exact ones that wore out,,now these did the same thing, a shocker,now they don't answer my e mails ,so is it they made their money and fug the customer or are they out of business ?
My experience:
1.Inquired about toe links,by e mail because they don't do phone this should have been the glaring red flag.
2. Ordered them paid in full had to wait prob a month or so not exactly sure but I could figure it out.
3. When they showed up no directions,not a big deal but there was a question of which way a tapered mounting spacer for the brackets went and since they don't do phone,even with a paying customer I had to wait a few days for the answer,and I had to dimple my floor pan slightly because of a clearance issue with the mounting brackets.
Numerous e mails I give up gonna try to source my own heim joints that won't wear out and cause noise and play.Another fine vendor story.
My experience:
1.Inquired about toe links,by e mail because they don't do phone this should have been the glaring red flag.
2. Ordered them paid in full had to wait prob a month or so not exactly sure but I could figure it out.
3. When they showed up no directions,not a big deal but there was a question of which way a tapered mounting spacer for the brackets went and since they don't do phone,even with a paying customer I had to wait a few days for the answer,and I had to dimple my floor pan slightly because of a clearance issue with the mounting brackets.
Numerous e mails I give up gonna try to source my own heim joints that won't wear out and cause noise and play.Another fine vendor story.
11-15-2013, 10:13 AM
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When you get the specs on the heims (tpi & diameter) and the diameter of the through-hole please post that information.
Heim quality varies greatly, I'm sure we could source a high-quality replacement that would be more durable.
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Heim quality varies greatly, I'm sure we could source a high-quality replacement that would be more durable.
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11-15-2013, 11:17 AM
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I found a greasable one with specs gonna call them they are in Canada my heim joints are 3/4 - 16 TPI left and right thread 5/8 bore they ain't cheap lol
11-15-2013, 11:25 AM
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If I remember them correctly from pictures they were qa1 rod ends. they are about $25 a piece. if you want top of the line go with arura. they are used on everything from pro mod to commercial and military aircraft. prob be around 70-80 a piece if I were to guess
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11-16-2013, 07:35 AM
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I'm curious to hear if EMF will have an alternative to the QA1 with similar ear-to-ear dimensions so that they will be a direct swap....?
I could see their heims being slightly wider at the ears, so they may not fit without modification to the other bracketry.
Keep us informed, I'm really curious to see if this idea works.
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I could see their heims being slightly wider at the ears, so they may not fit without modification to the other bracketry.
Keep us informed, I'm really curious to see if this idea works.
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11-19-2013, 11:54 AM
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I guess they are out of business 1 week no reply,shame on them,EMF rod ends are too wide 
11-19-2013, 12:04 PM
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Did you do any tire pressure tests yet? I'm curious to hear your feedback on that.
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11-19-2013, 12:18 PM
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Oh yeah $654.00 pay up front ,wait one month,clearance issues ,no directions,no phone,and heim joints wear out lickity split ,then I'm told lifetime warranty ,one set of heim joints later and no response thanks MB Arts ,the art of taking $ , karma baby
Tire pressure didn't matter for me ,it was rear steering ,that's why I got the mb arts crap ,should have left stock and ran toe in,I had it dialed in perfect with stock arms but figured the toe in would wear out tires so went with the
Links, oh well
Tire pressure didn't matter for me ,it was rear steering ,that's why I got the mb arts crap ,should have left stock and ran toe in,I had it dialed in perfect with stock arms but figured the toe in would wear out tires so went with the
Links, oh well
11-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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RennTech still sells their toe link kits for older AMGs...... $1295/set
Looks basically identical to the MBArts in terms of overall design. Maybe they use a better quality heim?
When you decide to yank the MBArts stuff off your car, it would be interesting to see any photos of the wear, or to measure the endplay/backlash of the heims to confirm that's where the sloppiness originated....
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Looks basically identical to the MBArts in terms of overall design. Maybe they use a better quality heim?
When you decide to yank the MBArts stuff off your car, it would be interesting to see any photos of the wear, or to measure the endplay/backlash of the heims to confirm that's where the sloppiness originated....
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11-19-2013, 09:33 PM
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No reply! Sounds like TTM...'Take the money'! I wonder if that tool (lol...what he referred everyone as) is still in biz?
11-19-2013, 10:31 PM
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Yes he is still in business 
Listen it's the cheap *** Chinese heim joints I confirmed were used on there overpriced sad excuse of a product ,they suck They fugged me out of my money .
For anybody buying MB arts rear toe links for R230 chassis,1st get a hammer and dent your floor pan up ,then the spacers that are for the mounting brackets face taper up,and buy about 20 sets of heim joints your gonna need them,e mail me for specs ,what a joke,when I asked why they don't include instructions this is what I was told " by e mail of course ". No phones for them we don't include instructions for liability reasons in case of a shade tree mechanic type of install,then they told me if im having difficulty to take it to a Benz Dealership and have them install the kit as they are qualified 
like they change out rear toe links ,they did however ask me for photos of the clearance problem ,which I sent like an idiot 
Listen it's the cheap *** Chinese heim joints I confirmed were used on there overpriced sad excuse of a product ,they suck They fugged me out of my money .
For anybody buying MB arts rear toe links for R230 chassis,1st get a hammer and dent your floor pan up ,then the spacers that are for the mounting brackets face taper up,and buy about 20 sets of heim joints your gonna need them,e mail me for specs ,what a joke,when I asked why they don't include instructions this is what I was told " by e mail of course ". No phones for them
we don't include instructions for liability reasons in case of a shade tree mechanic type of install,then they told me if im having difficulty to take it to a Benz Dealership and have them install the kit as they are qualified like they change out rear toe links ,they did however ask me for photos of the clearance problem ,which I sent like an idiot
