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DRIFT OR RADIAL PULL/PUSH?!

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:49 AM
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DRIFT OR RADIAL PULL/PUSH?!

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I am battling a drifting (to the right) 211! I had Americas Tire put on 2 sets (Hankook Ventus V12) of front tires thinking it might have been a bad tire radial pull or push and that didnt help. Then I had the beast aligned and that helped a little. The alignment was set to factory specs and I was told it wasnt off by much and still it drifts more then usual for road crown. Any suggestions? Thanks again!

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Who did the alignment? If it was the tire store that's the problem.
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Who did the alignment? If it was the tire store that's the problem.
A Benz Euro shop that came highly recommended.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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radial pull. There are some brands of tires these cars just don't like.
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Did they road force balance the tires? The machine should show exactly how much pull the tires have. Try swapping the front tires just to test and see if it changes. If its a tire pull, it will.

What are your alignment specs? To compensate for road crown you want less camber on the lf and more caster on the rf. how much depends on how your road crowns are in your area and what is more of a issue, pulling and tire wear. Usually though you can have road crown compensation in your alignment while still being in spec.
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radial pull. There are some brands of tires these cars just don't like.
what are you running up front if you dont mind me asking?
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Did they road force balance the tires? The machine should show exactly how much pull the tires have. Try swapping the front tires just to test and see if it changes. If its a tire pull, it will.

What are your alignment specs? To compensate for road crown you want less camber on the lf and more caster on the rf. how much depends on how your road crowns are in your area and what is more of a issue, pulling and tire wear. Usually though you can have road crown compensation in your alignment while still being in spec.
Not sure about the road force balancing. They swapped tires from left to right and I had the same issue. I didnt get the alignment print out so I dont know the specs. I will see about getting that.
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Not sure about the road force balancing. They swapped tires from left to right and I had the same issue. I didnt get the alignment print out so I dont know the specs. I will see about getting that.
If they swapped the front tires and the pull didn't change its alignment related. Or possibly your car sits a little lower on the right front. There is a romis tool used by dealers to check ride height before doing a alignment. Airmatic and abc cars can be tricky to align if the person isn't fimiular with the systems. If they align it to spec without properly leveling it and setting it to the proper ride height it's not really "in spec" and can give you issues.
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If they swapped the front tires and the pull didn't change its alignment related. Or possibly your car sits a little lower on the right front. There is a romis tool used by dealers to check ride height before doing a alignment. Airmatic and abc cars can be tricky to align if the person isn't fimiular with the systems. If they align it to spec without properly leveling it and setting it to the proper ride height it's not really "in spec" and can give you issues.
StockC43 - Thanks for chiming in here and offering your expertise on the matter. I am awaiting the Benz from the Body Shop then I will tackle this issue with FULL force!
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If they swapped the front tires and the pull didn't change its alignment related. Or possibly your car sits a little lower on the right front. There is a romis tool used by dealers to check ride height before doing a alignment. Airmatic and abc cars can be tricky to align if the person isn't fimiular with the systems. If they align it to spec without properly leveling it and setting it to the proper ride height it's not really "in spec" and can give you issues.
StockC43 - Just got my beast back from the repair shop as it was recently backed into. Just looking at the right front and measuring myself I can see that the right front sits a little lower (not by much) then the left. I am going to call the place that aligned my car and see if they have the Romis tool and can measure. As an indepedent Euro shop I would hope they do have the tool and measured, but maybe it was overlooked and or never done. I may just have to take to the dealership and consider that $145 wasted $$$!

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