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Old 12-24-2013, 09:34 AM
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SBC replacement period about to run up

So I've been doing some reading about the SBC system. Mercedes offers free replacement up to 10 years after manufacture date, my car will hit this in a couple months. So, I've got a couple questions...

Is there a way to check and see if my car has already had this? A visual way I could check by looking at the SBC unit, or would i need a VMI or something?

Does every SBC pump go bad? Is this an 'if' or a 'when' issue? I read something about the pump having a threshold for "braking events", which I can only assume means peddle presses. What's the number on this? Is there a way to find out how close you are to it?

And lastly, is there a way to 'force' this code so I don't end up being $3k out of pocket in a few months? It seems that there must be some sort of problem with SBC if MB offers a 10 year free replacement, and also stopped using it on our cars after 2006
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hmmm i didnt know they had a ten year free replacement, but thanks cause i noticed my braking feeling a little weird
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Originally Posted by G_Money
So I've been doing some reading about the SBC system. Mercedes offers free replacement up to 10 years after manufacture date, my car will hit this in a couple months. So, I've got a couple questions...

Is there a way to check and see if my car has already had this? A visual way I could check by looking at the SBC unit, or would i need a VMI or something?

Does every SBC pump go bad? Is this an 'if' or a 'when' issue? I read something about the pump having a threshold for "braking events", which I can only assume means peddle presses. What's the number on this? Is there a way to find out how close you are to it?

And lastly, is there a way to 'force' this code so I don't end up being $3k out of pocket in a few months? It seems that there must be some sort of problem with SBC if MB offers a 10 year free replacement, and also stopped using it on our cars after 2006
Every SBC will go bad. There is a counter in there that goes up to 300K cycles. Once it hits 300K cycles there is a warning that comes up. You can force the code by pressing the pedal 300K times

Some people after getting the code, reset with DAS. I have heard some dealers do this also (only in reading) … I would not recommend this. SBC failure is serious failure.
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dealer reprogrammed mine recently...
i was hoping to get it replaced...
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dealer reprogrammed mine recently...
i was hoping to get it replaced...

Same here, also refused balancer shaft job on my R350 so I'm 0 for 2 so far
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Just had my SBC flashed yesterday. They said the warranty for my 2004 ran out in October, but I did not need one.
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Just had my SBC flashed yesterday. They said the warranty for my 2004 ran out in October, but I did not need one.
Why did you have it flashed? Did the light come on (white or red)? Did you have it done during the brake flush? What exactly did the flash do?
Thanks for your reply,
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I had the white : Brake Service - Visit Workshop warning come on. I replaced my Brake Light Switch (on brake pedal) and there was still a code is STAR that showed something like (I wish I would have written it down): Brake component threshold exceeded.

So the only reason it went to dealer was for this. We could not clear it in STAR

Before they looked at it my adviser said he would do everything he could to get the SBC replaced if needed even though the 10 year warranty had expired in October.

He called and said: Your SBC is fine, however the code requires an SBC update

It was $90 out the door.
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Thanks Bramage for your reply.
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The code for this, at least mine, was C249F-Check operating time of component A7/3 (SBC Hydraulic Unit) which gave me the white screen Brake Service visit workshop brake malfunction on the cluster. We could not clear it with STAR (kept coming back) and after going through the steps to fix it, it required some special "tool" to reprogram it or reset it per the computer. I dropped it off at the dealer and apparently the SBC unit just needed reprogrammed. Brakes felt normal before and after.

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