dllhg

Yeah, I saw his first 10 second run in person. Looked/sounded like a damn stock car with DRs on. Full weight with a big guy and a 5 gal tank in his trunk. His car inspired me to get a E55 and I did very shortly after that night

hollandca12

Count me in as one of the e55 CTS V converts. After owning MB for the past 11 years and ownied my full Renntech modded e55 for 6 years I will tell you that there's no contest. The v stops, turns, and is faster than the w211 without a doubt. I loved the crap out of my e55 and never had plans on selling it but the v is hands down a better car all around drive both cars back to back and see for yourself. The w211 amg was and still is impressive but come on guys....

CharlyE500

In your post with the link car.com ! the first one is $19,700

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchr...=GN_REFINEMENT

chiromikey

I'd easily concede every performance aspect to the CTS-V...but a "better car all around", no way. Without mentioning the many small but meaningful details, the interior and seat quality isn't close and that was disappointing for me when I was test driving the Caddy.

Joncl

Hollandca12, what mods did your Renntech have?

e55amgrocket

Have you done any 60-130 pulls in the CTS-V urbamworm?

G_Money

Yeah, sorry. In performance you may be right, but overall quality of the car? Hell no. Just no. What your rattle trap plastic caddy sounds like it's about to fly apart at 120, the W211 will be almost no different than it is a 55 mph. Also crap seats with no massage, pass.

dllhg

LOL calling the Caddy a "rattle trap" I have seen several in person and they are very nice and very refined cars. I love my Mercedes and my Porsche but I certainly wouldnt be attacking the V in terms of refinement. 120 in a V will be much quieter than many of our older cars at 120

Its weird how threatened people always get when something a "little" better comes along. Same kind of stuff with GM forums. Are there any other four door sports sedans in the CTS-V price range that come close to its performance ? I could be wrong but I dont think there are. Its an American car so whats the problem here ?

G_Money

Why don't you tell me about driving your cadddy down a gravel road? Because mine rattles from about 10 places. Also lots more plastic and cloth instead of leather or alcantera. You must be joking to say a Cadillac interior is as nice as a merc.

chiromikey

dllhg is in his own world, just let him enjoy it...

dllhg

Yet the two of you bought or wanted to buy one .... My E55 rattles from many places on a smooth highway , whats you point ? If the new E63 AMGs were the same price as a CTSV I'd get the E63. Just kills some people to give credit where credit is due. The V has or had the fastest sports sedan lap around Ring a while back... stop hating geez.

chiromikey

Yes, I looked for months and drove several...but that has nothing to do with you making false claims about their price range or quality. I can appreciate and respect the CTS-V for what it is without pretending it's something it's not.

dllhg

This is why I keep posting in response to YOUR misinformation. I posted up facts about prices and included links to back them up. Clear as could be. You come back with a bunch of BS about how any true car enthusiast must have the Recaro seats and how you cant find any in that price range. WTF do a seat option on a car have to do with its price range ? Doesnt even make sense and I really doubt anyone would try to validate your silly argument about the pricing. Just saying

urbamworm

Assume you mean with a Vbox, no I have not.


Come on man, are you serious? You clearly are set in your thoughts and don't want to accept anything else, but yes seat options on a car change the price The Recaro seat option was either $3600 or $3800 I can look at my window sticker to check meaning a car with them when searching for one will command a higher price point. Same way an E55 that has heated/cooled and/or massage seats is worth more than one that doesn't have any of those options.

How do you think cars cost different amounts that are all the same model? Wait for it......... OPTIONS. Yes that extra or better stuff they put in them, that stuff cost money.

Get out of lala land and come back to earth.

berti_00

love this thread

badm

The CTS-V .. we should be glad a american car company has finally come with a performance car worth buying , other than camero's, vettes , mustangs ,SRT 8's and the long gone G8 & GTO . Of course it faster and easy to mod it has a Chevy engine drive train etc and more displacement. We cannot forget that GM has learned from other manufacturers mistakes in building a supercharged car and build a excellent engine that's 6.2 liter displacement that's a big motor it not the old 5.7 350 cubic inch its over 400 cubic inches remember that use to be a stroker kit. I have no issue with any v's they look good , easy to mod .. quality is good not necessarily world class but good . It's not all about speed.A TT E55 or weistec supercharged or big displacement block like 5.7 will differentially run with any V's , long as you got the money to spend you can go as fast as YOU want . Actually I like the V coup and wagon over the sedan , only issue I have is the price is to much for a new car .

urbamworm

The engine is 376 cubic inch.

e55amgrocket

[QUOTE=urbamworm;5888971]Assume you mean with a Vbox, no I have not.

Yes with a Vbox. You should borrow/buy one if possible and see what it does for comparison to some of the E55's.

Joncl

[QUOTE=e55amgrocket;5889245]That would be a great comparison to some of the fastest E55s

urbamworm

I will be at a track somewhere in Florida in the next 2 weeks. Don't know about vbox though, not sure I know anyone with one and not worth it to me to buy one.

I have been hoping for some cooler weather but unfortunately in Florida that is hard to come by. It is still bathing suit weather

cnterline

I have an 03 SL55 168 lower,84 upper,82 mm TB ,extra heat exchanger,trunk tank,Kleemann headers and cams,Quaife diff,to make a long story short 60 Nomad a member on this forum had an E55 ,then went to a CTS V , we would compare performance as he went through his modding,now he's done and the car is deep in the 10,s he may have even posted the time slips from ATCO ,and I believe videos of it,without mentioning numbers his car has over 100 WHP more then mine ,we used the same dyno ,the last time we compared cars if I didn't know him I would have made the first turn I could have and hoped to never run Into to him again,to the OP I don't know what happened in your comparison but if that V actually has the power he said he had you would have been seeing his tail lights for sure if that lasted longer then it did,those cars really wake up with some mods. Disclaimer I know I'm on the wrong forum,and no I'm not getting a V I love my SL just sharing my experience with a fast V

moosejaw

I have driven a rental car cadillac for the better part of two weeks now
I absolutely love this ATS. Ive recommended it to several people i know.
Ive even let two bmw 3 series owners drive it who say it handles better than their car.

The build quality is top notch and feels better than the mercedes. The leather, the dash, all quality materials. The only let down is the transmission. The new CTS 4.6 TT should be worth looking at. Im not sure they will make a V Version however. Defintely the ATS.

The 4.6TT is almost as much as the previous CTS-V. It defintely has gone upmarket.

chiromikey

The new gen Caddy's are definitely an improvement. I'm pretty sure next year we'll see a V...which was another factor that caused me to hesitate on a CTS-V.

Hammer Down

Yes sir, with the exception of the drag radials I wanted to be able to run the car on the street the same way I run it at the strip. Now of I can just find some stickier tires..... I'm thinking of going with the a Vredestein Ultrac Vorti R and then go back to the strip to see if I can run 10's on street tires

BlownV8

The CTS coming out in early 2014 will have a 3.6L twin-turbo engine producing 420 HP and 430 lb.-ft. Where did you read that it will be a 4.6L?