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Old 02-04-2014, 04:59 PM
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Heard someone went to the darkside...



Seems a member here sold his W211 E55k and picked up an E60 M5...

Let's see if he comes clean!
Old 02-04-2014, 05:07 PM
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yah mr.Jon no longer fromM3toAMG
looks like a beast anyways but i hear they have lots of problems
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Yea he posted pics up on m3forum it's a 6MT too which is awesome. My good friend just bought one a few months ago with the SMG for $26k and the warranty already covered $22k in repairs (subframe, vanos, and smg pump).
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Such pieces of crap. The large majority of owners I know have had nothing but problems with them.

I think the 6spd should be more trouble free.

I had one buddy who's Vanos offed itself, multiple with SMG issues(leaking pumps, replaced pumps) one failed mid shift and killed the trans. Think I would pick a S65 over the M5
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A S65 and M5 are hardly even comparable. Two completely different machines. One is a long comfortable cruiser, the other is a driver-focussed machine.

Yes, the SMG pumps are known to be super troublesome - just like the airmatic issues on the E55s . All modern performance cars have their quirks.

Jon seems to have done it right by getting a 3 pedal E60 M5. I for one am envious. 3 pedals, a glorious motorsport inspired V10 that spins to 8K RPM? Nirvana.
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Yea he posted pics up on m3forum it's a 6MT too which is awesome. My good friend just bought one a few months ago with the SMG for $26k and the warranty already covered $22k in repairs (subframe, vanos, and smg pump).
$22k in repair ?
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Originally Posted by berti_00
yah mr.Jon no longer fromM3toAMG
looks like a beast anyways but i hear they have lots of problems
should change his name to fromAMGtoM5

i've seen it - pretty nice
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Dang how did you find out I bought a Volt??

For real I traded my C230 in on Sunday for Volt to drive for work daily. Still have the E55, just trying to balance my carbon footprint, haha!
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Dang how did you find out I bought a Volt??

For real I traded my C230 in on Sunday for Volt to drive for work daily. Still have the E55, just trying to balance my carbon footprint, haha!
Same here, my wife just picked up a RAV4 EV today, there are killer lease deal on these if you are Cali ($16,500 off MSPR), plus they have the Tesla drivetrain, so it not too crappy. I'm DDing a 6.2l V8, she is DDing electrons, overall we have a decent Family Average Fuel Economy!
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I like M5's, or atleast the idea of one. I was in the position before i purchased my e55 cross shopping with the e60 m5. The e55 is far more superior IMO. The manual is a great choice for the e60, no SMG failures or red cog of death. The v10 in that car is not an ounce of reliable, you HAVE to change the rod bearings out every 50-60k miles. The vanos high pressure oil pump is plagued with problems from the lines and pump itself, and when it fails, you have no idea that its happening. Check on m5 board and look at all the destroyed motors from rod bearings and vanos pump going out, its HORRIBLE. And on top of that getting 9/10mpg in the city is a huge gas guzzler, have to rev the hell out of the car to get it going. Cool car none the less, just not for me. lol hope the new buyer enjoys it.
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Always interesting to read what people think of the E60 M5. For me, it is my second SMG, and never had any issues with either one. The sound of the motor at 8750 rpm with full headers and performance exhaust is something you have to experience.
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He had a nice 55k. Hope he chimes in here with some pics of the M5.
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Originally Posted by Toadster
i've seen it - pretty nice

In the parking lot at work?






....not much of a mystery to solve if that's the case.




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My dad had an E60 M5 with the SMG and I HATED that transmission. The rev happy nature of the V10 was intoxicating though.

His new 14 M5 with the competition package and DCT transmission is light years ahead of the E60 version. The torque produced by the V8 and twin turbos makes the car much more fun to drive on a daily basis.
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As someone noted on E46Fanatics, Jon is technically:
FromWRXto330CItoM3toE55toE60M5
LOL!!

Congratulations Jon, now post some pics!!
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Originally Posted by FASN8N
My dad had an E60 M5 with the SMG and I HATED that transmission. The rev happy nature of the V10 was intoxicating though.

His new 14 M5 with the competition package and DCT transmission is light years ahead of the E60 version. The torque produced by the V8 and twin turbos makes the car much more fun to drive on a daily basis.
Do you think the 6MT E60 M5 would be much different?

I always thought what an E60 M5 would be like. What if we're used to the torque that our 55Ks put out? Would that make the E60 M5 less exciting?
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Originally Posted by GunMoto
Do you think the 6MT E60 M5 would be much different?

I always thought what an E60 M5 would be like. What if we're used to the torque that our 55Ks put out? Would that make the E60 M5 less exciting?
I had one for about a week, but at that time I was used to driving modded GTRs, I didn't think they were all that interesting, unless I was beating on it. Since it wasn't my car, I didn't beat on it
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GunMoto, I didn't know you were an OG on E46F. Noice. Lol.
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Originally Posted by GunMoto
Do you think the 6MT E60 M5 would be much different?

I always thought what an E60 M5 would be like. What if we're used to the torque that our 55Ks put out? Would that make the E60 M5 less exciting?
The manual would help, some but I don't know that it would sway me to buy an E60 version. You are better off holding out for a used F10 M5

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