Originally Posted by boostiality

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I wonder what kind of special sauce do these things have in them to trump over the larger displacement TT AMG's.

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Originally Posted by 60nomad

I haven't read through this whole thread but I do have some actual facts for you guys. I raced both cars discussed in here in my V numerous times and here were the results. Sorry but no video.


Rs7- (tune, downpipe, good fuel) Rolling from approx. 40 mph we start evenly and stay even till about 90mph where I start to inch away to about a 1/2-3/4 car lead and at about 140mph he starts inching back to even at about 170mph where we get out of it. It is the best races that either one of us have ever had. That's why we have done it so many times, probably about 5.


E63- (renntech tuned, downpipe, probably 93 octane) Not much to explain here...I murder him every time! He likes to start at 30mph or so, so we go out evenly... he hooks, I don't, he takes a 1-2 car length lead and by 90mph I am 2 cars in front, 130mph I am 6 cars in front.


Bottom line with similar work done...the Rs7's are going 10.60s on 93 octane and the E63's are going low 11's. Drag times tells it all.


P.S. I was supposed to go out and run the E63 yesterday morning in my e55 to see where my E stands and I was late....had a X mas party Sat. night so I was a little hung over. I will try and get with him this coming Sunday. I assume to lose by a few cars but hopefully only like 2.

Originally Posted by dllhg

Doesnt your car trap around 135-137 off bottle ? Wouldnt expect you to be so even. Of course traps don't mean everything especially with turbo cars. So damn efficient up top. That or the dude had some mods he didnt mention like N20 .....

Originally Posted by cnterline

My car is pretty much maxed out on the bolt on s,03 SL55,and running 10.7 on race fuel and drag radials,guy by me has RS7 tune,some exhaust ,race fuel and walks away from me,I'd say low 10.6 or 10.5s ,I think just a tune puts RS7 at 10.8 ,don't think a pulley and tune is gonna help you much if your friend has a tune ,but good luck with that race lol

Originally Posted by 60nomad

I wish it trapped 135-137mph and I don't have a bottle...I actually consistently trapped 132.5ish and with some spin actually trapped 134mph but in good hook runs 132.5 on a bad tire. A belt was broke and I was dangerously close to having a blow out. Funny thing was, tires were old and the cold weather was here so I thought they were just getting flat spots from sitting around (I only use it once a week or two weeks even). I would drive for 10 minutes or so with some lumping going on and then it would almost clear up but not fully. Anyway, I should trap a steady 133mph+ with my new tires but will have to wait for next year. I also probably could have had a little better E85 as well so we will see what happens.


Back to the RS7, he had it tuned to the moon and on full blown race fuel...trust me. Could he have had something else small that he wasn't disclosing? Very possible, but it was no NOS! lol...Those cars run 10.60's on 93 all day long. Go look on drag times there are 2 last I looked...10.60 flat and 10.69. They are fast!

Originally Posted by 55kAMG

I think you guys misunderstood me. His RS7 is stock. i dont think it can do better than a 11.7 in a 1/4 especially with a 300 pound driver. thats the only reason i said i would have a chance if i was pulley/tune. if hes tuned i wont waste my time, trust me i know what these turbo 8s are capable of with just tune.

BTW these "tunes" are over 2k so lets not act like its just 1 small little mod lol

Originally Posted by dllhg

Ahh ok that makes more sense. I had you mixed up with another member on here who I believe just cracked a 10.2-10.3@140 on juice and I believe 137 range off the bottle.

Crazy days with all these 10 second 4 door luxury sedans everywhere

Originally Posted by 1ForcedBenz

You really must be new to the European / European performance marketplace. Because a little of $2000 in mods is practically nothing, basically a very cheap entrance fee. You do relize it's a 130k car right? And HP vs Dollar amount gained is practically a cheap per HP/TQ you can buy.

The E55 buyers / owners now and days don't relize or even remember the days when a crank pulley was 2k and Kleemann headers were nearly 4k for the 55s

Originally Posted by 60nomad

That is Dave (urbamworm). Great guy! As a matter of fact, he played the role of 'inspector' for the E55 I just got! It was close to him so he went and checked it out for me.




Yes, I think for $3k maximum you go from 11.7's to 10.6s...I don't know about you but sounds like a deal, right Forced? Also, what you said, the car is $130k loaded up so for 2% this is what you get!

Originally Posted by 1ForcedBenz

Bingo, it's cheaper then most every singular additional option you can add to the car when purchasing. And again dollar for dollar you couldn't buy that much power for a 55k engine even with today's cheaper mod costs. Not attempting to be rude or condescending to anyone but some of the people in the E55 platform don't relize what these cars costed new or how much the "pay to play" costed prior owners and OG's to the 55k modding game. Them buying an e55 for 20k or less skews there judgement in my opinion. Practically every E55 modder in existence would have killed to have a second off there 1/4 mile for around 2k.

Originally Posted by enzom

What he said - I remember when the E55 was the new kid on the block and pulley/tunes were more expensive than these software flashes and didn't yield anywhere near the improvements. Even $4k for a 100 whp increase is nothing for a 130k plus car. A set of QUALITY wheels costs more.

Originally Posted by 1ForcedBenz

Bingo, it's cheaper then most every singular additional option you can add to the car when purchasing. And again dollar for dollar you couldn't buy that much power for a 55k engine even with today's cheaper mod costs. Not attempting to be rude or condescending to anyone but some of the people in the E55 platform don't relize what these cars costed new or how much the "pay to play" costed prior owners and OG's to the 55k modding game. Them buying an e55 for 20k or less skews there judgement in my opinion. Practically every E55 modder in existence would have killed to have a second off there 1/4 mile for around 2k.

Originally Posted by enzom

What he said - I remember when the E55 was the new kid on the block and pulley/tunes were more expensive than these software flashes and didn't yield anywhere near the improvements. Even $4k for a 100 whp increase is nothing for a 130k plus car. A set of flashy wheels costs more.

Originally Posted by Worth the wait

Fixed that for ya
Flashy wheels are cheap...lol.

And yes, 100whp/130wtq for $3k is a modders wet dream.