Anybody used Kumho tires before? Any other tire recommendations?
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I haven't decided on wheels yet but I am in desperate need of tires. Pretty sure I am ordering hankook of some kind... Offer amazing dry traction and ok wet traction. Its a perfect tire to burn off lots of
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2005 E55, 2011 Honda Push Mower (21 inch deck bishes)
I run the Invos on all 4 corners and love them. They don't particularly hook that well for me, but I'm over 500 at the wheels and REALLY need to get my adjustable lower arms installed. With my crazy camber from being lowered, I'm pretty sure only about 60% of the rear tire is actually contacting the pavement
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I run the Invos on all 4 corners and love them. They don't particularly hook that well for me, but I'm over 500 at the wheels and REALLY need to get my adjustable lower arms installed. With my crazy camber from being lowered, I'm pretty sure only about 60% of the rear tire is actually contacting the pavement ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I am on the fence about going with all four Invos or going Invos up front and Cont DWS for the rears (the DWS have good dry grip and they last long). Decisions, decisions...only two days until this tire sale is up in the other thread, too!
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I almost bought them for my S, but a little pricey
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
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But I will say they are the BEST ALL season tire I have EVER used
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If you don't care about longevity, look at these![naughty](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/naughty.gif)
I almost bought them for my S, but a little pricey
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
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I almost bought them for my S, but a little pricey
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
Playing with the different tire sizes I think I came up with exactly what Im ordering...
Hankook Ventus V12s
Front: 255/35/18
Rear: 295/30/18
Both have an overall diameter equal to that of each other. The hankooks tend to run a tad thin which I am ok with cause they are going on 18x8.5" and 18x9.5"wheels...
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I am NO Michelin fan at all. Many reasons, but I have posted them hundreds of times. To be fair, I only had the PS2's. But there are MANY tires better than them and they are alot cheaper.
And yes, it all depends on what you are buying the tire for, grip, noise, longevity.
My PS2's only were quite![Stick Out Tongue](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
And yes, it all depends on what you are buying the tire for, grip, noise, longevity.
My PS2's only were quite
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I run the Invos on all 4 corners and love them. They don't particularly hook that well for me, but I'm over 500 at the wheels and REALLY need to get my adjustable lower arms installed. With my crazy camber from being lowered, I'm pretty sure only about 60% of the rear tire is actually contacting the pavement ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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But then again it's not anyone else's money or car. Locations and temp changes vary between all of us. So it's basically what ever tire is best for you and your budget based on your own driving style and conditions.
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was thinking about them for my rear tires... but I daily my car so they need to be ok in rain, the reviews don't sound promissing
Playing with the different tire sizes I think I came up with exactly what Im ordering...
Hankook Ventus V12s
Front: 255/35/18
Rear: 295/30/18
Both have an overall diameter equal to that of each other. The hankooks tend to run a tad thin which I am ok with cause they are going on 18x8.5" and 18x9.5"wheels...
Playing with the different tire sizes I think I came up with exactly what Im ordering...
Hankook Ventus V12s
Front: 255/35/18
Rear: 295/30/18
Both have an overall diameter equal to that of each other. The hankooks tend to run a tad thin which I am ok with cause they are going on 18x8.5" and 18x9.5"wheels...
Tire Rack---- (Discount Tire on Ebay has a $100 off per two purchased)
For $70 more the Pirelli P Zero Nero all season have TW rating of 400
For 120 more the Michelin Pilot AS/3 has a rating of 500
Honestly I have the Hankook's. I have read that cold weather they tend to slip a little due to being cold all the time. I have also been reading that around 5k miles in they start to noisen up a lot, to the point of taking the off the car before the tread wears out, and heavy rain driving they tend to hydroplane pending conditions. I take it all with a grain of salt, but rarely heard anything negative about the Pirelli or Michelin's. Price usually deters purchasers from those. PSS are great but I would want a little more all season for me. Spin or no Spin I think that is the real question https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif
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Just for thinking--- the Hankook ventus has a tread wear rating of 280.
Tire Rack---- (Discount Tire on Ebay has a $100 off per two purchased)
For $70 more the Pirelli P Zero Nero all season have TW rating of 400
For 120 more the Michelin Pilot AS/3 has a rating of 500
Honestly I have the Hankook's. I have read that cold weather they tend to slip a little due to being cold all the time. I have also been reading that around 5k miles in they start to noisen up a lot, to the point of taking the off the car before the tread wears out, and heavy rain driving they tend to hydroplane pending conditions. I take it all with a grain of salt, but rarely heard anything negative about the Pirelli or Michelin's. Price usually deters purchasers from those. PSS are great but I would want a little more all season for me. Spin or no Spin I think that is the real question https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif
Tire Rack---- (Discount Tire on Ebay has a $100 off per two purchased)
For $70 more the Pirelli P Zero Nero all season have TW rating of 400
For 120 more the Michelin Pilot AS/3 has a rating of 500
Honestly I have the Hankook's. I have read that cold weather they tend to slip a little due to being cold all the time. I have also been reading that around 5k miles in they start to noisen up a lot, to the point of taking the off the car before the tread wears out, and heavy rain driving they tend to hydroplane pending conditions. I take it all with a grain of salt, but rarely heard anything negative about the Pirelli or Michelin's. Price usually deters purchasers from those. PSS are great but I would want a little more all season for me. Spin or no Spin I think that is the real question https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif
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13' E350 4matic, 08' E63
I have a whole sale account with tirerack... AND I run snow tires in the cold. I have winter where I am so I kinda need the tires for separate seasons. All seasons are basically useless to me, crap traction in the summer, no traction in the winter. In the summer I drive the car spiritedly, and I want a sticky tire that I can take to the drag strip, track, or Autocross even...
Michelin-- PSS couldn't go wrong
Pirelli P Zero--- the real ones not the Nero's
Price diff for you would be minimal to go to the P's or M's for you, so I would try them out over the hankooks. But we are all different and have different tastes, that is what makes the world go round. I like the sidewalls of the Hankook's the best. Vertical and don't bow out around the rims.
Let us know what you do, and how it works out please. This appears to be a reoccurring thread.
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Hankook, then go with the grippier ones than the Ventus 12's. Mine hookup fairly good but do spin even in second. Traction Nanny comes into play
Michelin-- PSS couldn't go wrong
Pirelli P Zero--- the real ones not the Nero's
Price diff for you would be minimal to go to the P's or M's for you, so I would try them out over the hankooks. But we are all different and have different tastes, that is what makes the world go round. I like the sidewalls of the Hankook's the best. Vertical and don't bow out around the rims.
Let us know what you do, and how it works out please. This appears to be a reoccurring thread.
Michelin-- PSS couldn't go wrong
Pirelli P Zero--- the real ones not the Nero's
Price diff for you would be minimal to go to the P's or M's for you, so I would try them out over the hankooks. But we are all different and have different tastes, that is what makes the world go round. I like the sidewalls of the Hankook's the best. Vertical and don't bow out around the rims.
Let us know what you do, and how it works out please. This appears to be a reoccurring thread.
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Have Kumho ASTs 245/45/17 all around.
Not a stand out tire. Loudest tire I've had, like tractor tires. They are cheap, $110 each on tire rack. Manufactured in Korea. I plan on replacing mine asap.
Not a stand out tire. Loudest tire I've had, like tractor tires. They are cheap, $110 each on tire rack. Manufactured in Korea. I plan on replacing mine asap.
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Had Kumho's on my A4 audi qt, cheap tire but not the greatest for noise and wear,
Have Michelin pss on my x5 and love them, yes they are a lot more $$ but at least you can put the power down with these tires, and after all we drive Mercs that deserve only the best (lol) Will replace my Pirellis on my C63 also with Michelin pss after the winter is over here in Niagara! just my two cents...
Have Michelin pss on my x5 and love them, yes they are a lot more $$ but at least you can put the power down with these tires, and after all we drive Mercs that deserve only the best (lol) Will replace my Pirellis on my C63 also with Michelin pss after the winter is over here in Niagara! just my two cents...
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Continental DWS have been the best tires I've owned. Good dry grip, GREAT wet grip, and they last forever. The biggest bonus - low noise after 5k+ miles. I would definitely recommend them
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I almost bit on the Michelin PSS and went for the Bridgestone S-04 Pole Position, even with the Michelin warranty getiing one third back I could not justify the price of PSS. The Bridgies finish # 2 in Car and Driver along with Tire racks reviews. They are very sticky in the dry and wet and quiet on the road, very nice ride similar to Michelin's. Happy with my purchase and great prices at Discount Tire or Tire Rack.
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I almost bit on the Michelin PSS and went for the Bridgestone S-04 Pole Position, even with the Michelin warranty getiing one third back I could not justify the price of PSS. The Bridgies finish # 2 in Car and Driver along with Tire racks reviews. They are very sticky in the dry and wet and quiet on the road, very nice ride similar to Michelin's. Happy with my purchase and great prices at Discount Tire or Tire Rack.
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I almost bit on the Michelin PSS and went for the Bridgestone S-04 Pole Position, even with the Michelin warranty getiing one third back I could not justify the price of PSS. The Bridgies finish # 2 in Car and Driver along with Tire racks reviews. They are very sticky in the dry and wet and quiet on the road, very nice ride similar to Michelin's. Happy with my purchase and great prices at Discount Tire or Tire Rack.
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Sound alike? specifics r important
QUESTION , in last example of identical tire with two speed ratings available, which would have softer , quiter ride? Even as temps dropped to freezing? Thanks guys.
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PSS- more of a summer tire, great grip, but when cold they act up, similar to the Conti DW
AS3- all season performance tire, good for rain and cold weather. Similar to the conti DWS
The read wear rating --- the higher it is the harder the tire, thus more mileage out of them typically. Thats why you see track tire with a 140 rating. Compared to the AS3 I think have a 500 rating.
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From what I remember looking at
PSS- more of a summer tire, great grip, but when cold they act up, similar to the Conti DW
AS3- all season performance tire, good for rain and cold weather. Similar to the conti DWS
The read wear rating --- the higher it is the harder the tire, thus more mileage out of them typically. Thats why you see track tire with a 140 rating. Compared to the AS3 I think have a 500 rating.
PSS- more of a summer tire, great grip, but when cold they act up, similar to the Conti DW
AS3- all season performance tire, good for rain and cold weather. Similar to the conti DWS
The read wear rating --- the higher it is the harder the tire, thus more mileage out of them typically. Thats why you see track tire with a 140 rating. Compared to the AS3 I think have a 500 rating.
But 140 is the legal rule in SCCA street tire class racing.
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Also keep in mind that you can NOT compare this number to other brands.
That is a 300 BFG may or may NOT last as long as a 300 Nitto. That number is brand specific, NOT government rated.
A little note from Tirerack:
When looking at UTQG ratings it is important to realize that the Department of Transportation does not conduct the tests. The grades are assigned by the tire manufacturers based on their test results or those conducted by an independent testing company they have hired.
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