standalone tcu for 722.6?

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Mar 23, 2014 | 04:32 PM
  #1  
I've heard of it but has anyone had experience with it? Id like to try it if it would work with standalone ecu
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Mar 23, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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Very good ques. bro., flows in my mind as well..?!!?

ZAYED,,
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Mar 23, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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you mean a TCU tune? EC does them (and others)
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Mar 23, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Quote: you mean a TCU tune? EC does them (and others)
That's not what he's talking about
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Mar 23, 2014 | 06:50 PM
  #5  
why not give powerhause performance a call? they seem to have figured out the tt and twin charge setup for the benz. obviously you can go motec but the cost will be more than the entire car
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Mar 23, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Quote: why not give powerhause performance a call? they seem to have figured out the tt and twin charge setup for the benz. obviously you can go motec but the cost will be more than the entire car
I talk to them on a regular basis. They use eurocharged for tuning. I would ideally run e85 and proefi has so many cool features as you already know but need something to control the trans for that. I found something. I might just finalize tuning with factory stuff and move onto something else

Toadster- grown ups are talking
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Mar 23, 2014 | 07:08 PM
  #7  
garth from undercover performance will be at buckhead imports sat to tune my pro efi setup. ill ask him what he thinks would work best for you.
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Mar 23, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Quote: garth from undercover performance will be at buckhead imports sat to tune my pro efi setup. ill ask him what he thinks would work best for you.
Thanks. I know Garth. He did my friends car. I spoke to him, Chris, and the owner Jason. You're gonna love proefi!
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Mar 23, 2014 | 07:33 PM
  #9  
Do any of the big Chrysler/dodge guys have a standalone tcu. I know I've seen paramount performance and other companies mentioned. If nothing they might have a little more incite to what might work
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Mar 23, 2014 | 09:48 PM
  #10  
Are you talking about this?

http://www.powertraincontrolsolution...oduct/TCM2000/

I have no experience with it but it sounds interisting.
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Mar 23, 2014 | 11:03 PM
  #11  
Quote: Are you talking about this?

http://www.powertraincontrolsolution...oduct/TCM2000/

I have no experience with it but it sounds interisting.
Yea I talked to them about it. Has anyone used it?
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Mar 24, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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There are 2 guys who I know are running these behind 2 different cars.

One is a W124 with an whipple supercharged M104. No W124 ever came with a 722.6, and his was basically built/adapted to the car. (he posted here: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...722-6-tcu.html )

The second is in an R129 with an OM606 (diesel) mated to a 722.6. Once again, full custom build! Guy has videos of the car driving (http://www.youtube.com/user/olefejer...lf_id=1&view=0). One of his videos has some documentation of the build, as well as some diagrams.
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Mar 24, 2014 | 11:57 AM
  #13  
Very good find Justin,

Russell(whipple104) is knowledge & helpful guy as well..

ZAYED,,
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Mar 24, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Quote: There are 2 guys who I know are running these behind 2 different cars.

One is a W124 with an whipple supercharged M104. No W124 ever came with a 722.6, and his was basically built/adapted to the car. (he posted here: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...722-6-tcu.html )

The second is in an R129 with an OM606 (diesel) mated to a 722.6. Once again, full custom build! Guy has videos of the car driving (http://www.youtube.com/user/olefejer...lf_id=1&view=0). One of his videos has some documentation of the build, as well as some diagrams.
Those seem to be full ECU standalone as well no?
Quote: Very good find Justin,

Russell(whipple104) is knowledge & helpful guy as well..

ZAYED,,
I talked to him on the phone yesterday.
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Mar 24, 2014 | 01:00 PM
  #15  
I vote Standalone .. I have done standalones for all my project cars. it's a pain at the beginning but gives full control. The ProEFI looks interesting - designed by Woodward Governor pretty sound engineering in my book.

.. I have always used AEM/GEMs - many consider these units garbage .. but they were relatively inexpensive and very configurable ...
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Mar 24, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Quote: Those seem to be full ECU standalone as well no?

I talked to him on the phone yesterday.
IIRC, the gent with the R129/OM606 has an OM603 with a manual injection pump, meaning there is no ECU.

The gent with the W124 is running a full standalone (Megasquirt) on the car.
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Mar 24, 2014 | 01:03 PM
  #17  
Have you considered MegaSquirt for the engine, with the PCS controller for the transmission?

Cheaper than ProEFI, but doesn't quite offer the same tuning solutions as ProEFI.
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Mar 24, 2014 | 01:25 PM
  #18  
what about skipping the automatic trans all together? Couldn't you in theory throw in a ratchet shift trans or maybe a tremec if you don't have to worry about a trans computer?
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Mar 24, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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Quote: I vote Standalone .. I have done standalones for all my project cars. it's a pain at the beginning but gives full control. The ProEFI looks interesting - designed by Woodward Governor pretty sound engineering in my book.

.. I have always used AEM/GEMs - many consider these units garbage .. but they were relatively inexpensive and very configurable ...
I vote standalone too but it's $$$ and being a guinea pig all over again. I've told myself if it runs 9s the way it is I'm probably not going to mess with it anymore. Proefi is awesome.
Quote: Have you considered MegaSquirt for the engine, with the PCS controller for the transmission?

Cheaper than ProEFI, but doesn't quite offer the same tuning solutions as ProEFI.
I'd rather do Proefi for the capabilities. I'd love to be able to pump E85 or 93 at the gas station and have the ECU calculate ethanol content and compensate in the tune. Plus the traction control etc are awesome.
Quote: what about skipping the automatic trans all together? Couldn't you in theory throw in a ratchet shift trans or maybe a tremec if you don't have to worry about a trans computer?
In my opinion that's no longer fully Mercedes but yes that can be done.
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Mar 24, 2014 | 02:09 PM
  #20  
ah ok, sorry, I missed that bit
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Mar 24, 2014 | 03:36 PM
  #21  
Quote: I talked to him on the phone yesterday.
Good bro., any good ideas..??

ZAYED,,
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Apr 21, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Quote:
I'd rather do Proefi for the capabilities. I'd love to be able to pump E85 or 93 at the gas station and have the ECU calculate ethanol content and compensate in the tune. Plus the traction control etc are awesome.
Megasquirt pro, AEM infinity, the newer haltech ecus, and many more are all capable of flex fuel/dual fuel mapping. (even microsquirt going on my zx10r has the capability), traction control is pretty much commonplace on any ems capable of controlling a dbw throttle body.

Im new to the Mercedes world, but what im not new to is the tuning game. A standalone can be utilized, im just curious as to what all the ecu controls as far as the dashboard display. I don't have a background in canbus transmission of data, so I don't know what is going to be given up in order to run a standalone ems.

I also don't know what limitations the factory ems has for tuning.
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Apr 21, 2014 | 11:23 AM
  #23  
Did you check with Mo again, since we was working with Haltech set up a wgile back?
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Apr 21, 2014 | 01:37 PM
  #24  
Quote: Did you check with Mo again, since we was working with Haltech set up a wgile back?
I'd love to hear more about this. Even more so if a PNP setup is in the works.
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Apr 21, 2014 | 03:35 PM
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Dunno who Mo is honestly, but I do know haltech is soon to release their new standalone very soon, im awaiting the price and expect it to be around 2-2500.
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